Red Bull RB20

[Vappy]

From a lack of my own experience, is the disappointment because those cutouts aren't an efficient method of cutting drag compared to other known, potentially more effective methods?

[Emag]

From a lack of my own experience, is the disappointment because those cutouts aren't an efficient method of cutting drag compared to other known, potentially more effective methods?

Not necessarily. The wing itself is quite large and (seemingly) significantly more loaded compared to what Mercedes, McLaren and Ferrari have brought.

It just doesn't look like something you would bring to Monza intentionally. More akin to what Williams was running when they had financial struggles.

[TNTHead]

From a lack of my own experience, is the disappointment because those cutouts aren't an efficient method of cutting drag compared to other known, potentially more effective methods?

Not necessarily. The wing itself is quite large and (seemingly) significantly more loaded compared to what Mercedes, McLaren and Ferrari have brought.

It just doesn't look like something you would bring to Monza intentionally. More akin to what Williams was running when they had financial struggles.

Or they expect there is more DF needed because of the changed layout.

[Waz]

I know there are cutouts but that is a huge wing for Monza.

It looks more sculpted than just a straight cutout of an existing wing.

Whether it is or not, Red Bull seem to be fiddling a lot this year compared to the RB19. Plenty of small, frequent changes.

[Paa]

I know there are cutouts but that is a huge wing for Monza.

At a few angles it looks like foils in those cutouts have a bit lower angle as well, but still this cannot be a serious option for Monza like last two years

This could be just part of their experimental program. Probably they'll test different configurations on Friday, not for Monza specifically, but to nail down their generic issues. Then fit a proper Monza wing on Saturday or something.

Max hinted in his recent interviews that "they need to find the balance between experimenting and setting up the car for Monza".

[PapayaFan481]

From a lack of my own experience, is the disappointment because those cutouts aren't an efficient method of cutting drag compared to other known, potentially more effective methods?

Not necessarily. The wing itself is quite large and (seemingly) significantly more loaded compared to what Mercedes, McLaren and Ferrari have brought.

It just doesn't look like something you would bring to Monza intentionally. More akin to what Williams was running when they had financial struggles.

Or they expect there is more DF needed because of the changed layout.

Do you mean car layout, or has their been a change to the circuit??

[SiLo]

Not necessarily. The wing itself is quite large and (seemingly) significantly more loaded compared to what Mercedes, McLaren and Ferrari have brought.

It just doesn't look like something you would bring to Monza intentionally. More akin to what Williams was running when they had financial struggles.

Or they expect there is more DF needed because of the changed layout.

Do you mean car layout, or has their been a change to the circuit??

Surely not the track layout, if anything it's faster now because the Ascari chicane has almost zero curb to unsettle the car.

[Lasssept]

[FNTC]

That sawzall-cut top flap looks like something a back marker team strapped for cash would have done, but hey, if it works.

[SiLo]

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Are they trying to keep the rear wing interacting with the two strong vortices coming off the diffuser maybe?

[cplchanb]

That sawzall-cut top flap looks like something a back marker team strapped for cash would have done, but hey, if it works.

I guess they overspent a bit on catering this time or to compensate for checo's crashes lol

[Vappy]

Perhaps the platform is nearing its limit regarding development, which is already an evolution of last year's car. This is potentially in part due to the cost cap, but also that it won them a championship and would make sense to continue in that direction. It has its weaknesses, and the teams at the top have had more resources to develop their own cars. Of course a car will start to look bad when running a handicap, and would provide an interesting insight into their design if they're able to build back on their dominance before the year is out.

[ing.]

Interesting to hear Max in post-race interviews say the team will NOW—I emphasize the NOW part—have to develop the car.

Could it be that based on the large performance advantage RBR had at the beginning of the year, they miscalculated that they could slow down development on the ‘24 car and focus on the ‘25 car—if not the ‘26 (whatever is allowed)—and so now they have too few things in the development pipeline and have been overtaken in the development race and on track?

[AR3-GP]

Interesting to hear Max in post-race interviews say the team will NOW—I emphasize the NOW part—have to develop the car.

Could it be that based on the large performance advantage RBR had at the beginning of the year, they miscalculated that they could slow down development on the ‘24 car and focus on the ‘25 car—if not the ‘26 (whatever is allowed)—and so now they have too few things in the development pipeline and have been overtaken in the development race and on track?

They developed the RB20 and the upgrades have simply failed. It is not because they were holding back to focus on '25 or '26.

[DDopey]

Interesting to hear Max in post-race interviews say the team will NOW—I emphasize the NOW part—have to develop the car.

Could it be that based on the large performance advantage RBR had at the beginning of the year, they miscalculated that they could slow down development on the ‘24 car and focus on the ‘25 car—if not the ‘26 (whatever is allowed)—and so now they have too few things in the development pipeline and have been overtaken in the development race and on track?

This could definitely be the case. Budget allocation (which is primarily done by Horner) could have been wrongly defined from a wrong perception of the seasons start. That will take time and politics to get adjusted.