2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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DragonSGC
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mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:13
Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:11
Is it so hard to give team orders now since Sainz is harmless?
He doesn't deserve it. He's too far back and had a so so grand prix, getting mugged by his "Slow" team mate.
That's rich so Norris shouldn't have swapped in Hungary? Piastri obviously didn't deserve it he had a so so last stint?

Dimond
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If this is not the final call to change the strategy team, I don't know what a call they need
We will listen a lot of "This is an important lesson for us, we will analyze and learn from this and will be stronger in the future" again

taperoo2k
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mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:10
Venturiation wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:05
Lando mistake destroyed mclaren chances of 1-2
He isn't winning the wdc
I think there's a lot of wishful thinking with the WDC. Norris is not good enough this year.
It's not that Lando isn't good enough, it's that McLaren have made some stupid decisions in pursuit
of the constructor's championship. Oscar mugging Lando on the first lap has likely cost McLaren the win
today. They should have held station, built a gap over Leclerc and then raced.

Questions need to be asked of McLaren on the pitwall.

SmallSoldier
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You have to give credit to Leclerc… He drove an amazing second stint… Well deserved

chengzhongyi2013
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taperoo2k wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:18
mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:10
Venturiation wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:05
Lando mistake destroyed mclaren chances of 1-2
He isn't winning the wdc
I think there's a lot of wishful thinking with the WDC. Norris is not good enough this year.
It's not that Lando isn't good enough, it's that McLaren have made some stupid decisions in pursuit
of the constructor's championship. Oscar mugging Lando on the first lap has likely cost McLaren the win
today. They should have held station, built a gap over Leclerc and then raced.

Questions need to be asked of McLaren on the pitwall.
Quoted. I cannot agree more with this statement.
They only have themselves to blame.

It’s not the first time that McLaren have thrown away the WDC with the fastest car (2005, 2007). Thought the culture would have changed with the new guard. Couldn’t have been more wrong.
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FittingMechanics
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Dimond wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:16
If this is not the final call to change the strategy team, I don't know what a call they need
We will listen a lot of "This is an important lesson for us, we will analyze and learn from this and will be stronger in the future" again
Completely agreed.

We will never know if Piastri could have won without stopping for a second time but doing a stop here MADE NO SENSE. I am super super mad. I am also quite mad that Piastri was so forceful in T2 (almost a crash) then the team protects with Piastri against Norris instead of kept him ahead of Leclerc. Super super stupid.

I bet Norris will end up less than 17 points behind Verstappen.

Mansell89
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Cannot believe McLaren have been mugged again here with a one stop.

Just didn’t give themselves enough laps against a very good Ferrari.

Need a lot more ruthlessness with the strategy.

Nothing wrong with the Lando v Piastri thing- Lando got done fair and square and frankly hasn’t shown a Champion season - he’s having a great season but not a Championship one and Oscar has performed yet again.

That should have been a 1-2 or 1-3 at worst.

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mwillems
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DragonSGC wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:16
mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:13
Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:11
Is it so hard to give team orders now since Sainz is harmless?
He doesn't deserve it. He's too far back and had a so so grand prix, getting mugged by his "Slow" team mate.
That's rich so Norris shouldn't have swapped in Hungary? Piastri obviously didn't deserve it he had a so so last stint?
Lando should have engaged his brain then. Gave the place back early and then fought. He chose the screw himself.
I'm not taking advice from a cartoon dog

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Jambier
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Another wasted win, Piastri first stop was not necessary at all... so soon, and then they could have had only one.

Good to have the best car of the grid, but strategy is poor and many wasted races!

Still, they can win the world constructor so let's push

Ben1980
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Oscar putting leclerc in front of Norris ruined that race for the team.

But, tge plan was for a 2 stop, and that's why Piastri was gunning all those fastest laps. The Mclaren wasn't great on its tyres.

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mwillems
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taperoo2k wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:18
mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:10
Venturiation wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:05
Lando mistake destroyed mclaren chances of 1-2
He isn't winning the wdc
I think there's a lot of wishful thinking with the WDC. Norris is not good enough this year.
It's not that Lando isn't good enough, it's that McLaren have made some stupid decisions in pursuit
of the constructor's championship. Oscar mugging Lando on the first lap has likely cost McLaren the win
today. They should have held station, built a gap over Leclerc and then raced.

Questions need to be asked of McLaren on the pitwall.
Lando is not good enough. No point blaming the team for everything. Another poor first lap and another example of not converting his chances.

He's not been good enough all year long.
Last edited by mwillems on 01 Sep 2024, 16:23, edited 1 time in total.
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Emag
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Another lost race by McLaren. Looking like muppets with all of the screw ups this year. Arguably one of the most undeserving wcc assuming they do get it.

selvam_e2002
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PA screw Norris in first lap so Lecrec gained a place and Norris cannot over take him. If PA behind Norris(the move which PA did caused Norris position) McLaren easy 1 and 2 now they are 2 and 3. Not good as a team. and PA should behind the Norris and the move 1 first lap is unnecessary.

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MrGapes
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mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:23
taperoo2k wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:18
mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:10


I think there's a lot of wishful thinking with the WDC. Norris is not good enough this year.
It's not that Lando isn't good enough, it's that McLaren have made some stupid decisions in pursuit
of the constructor's championship. Oscar mugging Lando on the first lap has likely cost McLaren the win
today. They should have held station, built a gap over Leclerc and then raced.

Questions need to be asked of McLaren on the pitwall.
Lando is not good enough. No point blaming the team for everything. Another poor first lap and another example of not converting his chances.

He's not been good enough all year long.
I'm sorry but I don't blame Lando for this lap 1, in what world do you expect your teammate, while you are in contention for a title to do --- like that, that nearly damaged both cars.
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mwillems
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MrGapes wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:24
mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:23
taperoo2k wrote:
01 Sep 2024, 16:18


It's not that Lando isn't good enough, it's that McLaren have made some stupid decisions in pursuit
of the constructor's championship. Oscar mugging Lando on the first lap has likely cost McLaren the win
today. They should have held station, built a gap over Leclerc and then raced.

Questions need to be asked of McLaren on the pitwall.
Lando is not good enough. No point blaming the team for everything. Another poor first lap and another example of not converting his chances.

He's not been good enough all year long.
I'm sorry but I don't blame Lando for this lap 1, in what world do you expect your teammate, while you are in contention for a title to do --- like that.
Lando almost always comes off poorer. At some point you realise it's more than just poor luck.

The overtake was too strong but It was also fair.
I'm not taking advice from a cartoon dog

-Bandit