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Ferrari plan was to do a 2 stop during the race, but when both McL pitted they said why not? There was no threat behind Norris. The deg and how the race evolved pushed them to go for the 1 stop.dialtone wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 18:22
Listening to HAM my opinion on the race shifted a bit further, Charles hanging with MCL made the strategy possible, but Ferrari went into the race with the availability of a 1 stopper which no other team had on that race pace.
Ferrari looked at their strengths pre-race and took victory, no handouts came from MCL during the race, not sure PIA was gonna make it to the end given the pace he was going at, they went into the race on a 2 stopper and that's where MCL failed their strategy, not in race.
That's not against what I said. Ferrari came with the ability to do a 1 stopper, not that they committed to do it before, but they had it in the bag unlike others.Xyz22 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 18:42Ferrari plan was to do a 2 stop during the race, but when both McL pitted they said why not? There was no threat behind Norris. The deg and how the race evolved pushed them to go for the 1 stop.
Everyone got extremely scared by the deg in the first stint where the laptimes were up massively. I didn't realize it at the time. Think Carlos should have done 2-3 lap less in the first stint.
Yep, agreed.dialtone wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 18:55That's not against what I said. Ferrari came with the ability to do a 1 stopper, not that they committed to do it before, but they had it in the bag unlike others.Xyz22 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 18:42Ferrari plan was to do a 2 stop during the race, but when both McL pitted they said why not? There was no threat behind Norris. The deg and how the race evolved pushed them to go for the 1 stop.
Everyone got extremely scared by the deg in the first stint where the laptimes were up massively. I didn't realize it at the time. Think Carlos should have done 2-3 lap less in the first stint.
Carlos did 20 laps on the mediums, once you do that on a full tank you learn that the hard can do 35+ and unlike the last couple of years, Ferrari is finally learning from how the tires do DURING the race.
Both the team and drivers have really improved the past few years. I don't think Leclerc from a few years ago could've pulled this off, just like how Ferrari from 2022 would've likely somehow fumbled the race management.dialtone wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 18:55
That's not against what I said. Ferrari came with the ability to do a 1 stopper, not that they committed to do it before, but they had it in the bag unlike others.
Carlos did 20 laps on the mediums, once you do that on a full tank you learn that the hard can do 35+ and unlike the last couple of years, Ferrari is finally learning from how the tires do DURING the race.
And people thought he was making fun of Ferrari Great job guys
I'm with you, I woke up right before the start and the first thing I saw was LEC come out of La Roggia with his rear moving under him but still planting down his foot to take that 2nd place. But this was obviously a difficult race to win and doubtful it can happen every race, but so far so good, last 2 races specifically Charles has been on another planet from any driver on the grid.ScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 19:04It's not perfect, and I'm still not as optimistic as some people here I think; I don't think there's any chance of Ferrari catching McLaren in the WCC. But after the disaster that was the Barcelona header, the races since Hungary have been progressively more uplifting. And Leclerc has been driving his *** off.
Agreed. However, the big issue until not long ago, after Miami maybe, was their reluctance to adapt the strategy during the race to match the track status, other strategies and how the race develops. I literally can't forrgive Binotto, Rueda and Xavi (in that order) Monaco and Hungary 2022. Silverstone was mega stupid too, but at least they got the win even if 1-2 was theirs to lose. It seems those times are behind now, but the jury's still out...
Binotto did seem a little rigid in approach. To many things, not just strategy. A quiet dictator perhaps, easily likeable and perhaps that is why he stayed on a little longer than he should have.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 20:24Agreed. However, the big issue until not long ago, after Miami maybe, was their reluctance to adapt the strategy during the race to match the track status, other strategies and how the race develops. I literally can't forrgive Binotto, Rueda and Xavi (in that order) Monaco and Hungary 2022. Silverstone was mega stupid too, but at least they got the win even if 1-2 was theirs to lose. It seems those times are behind now, but the jury's still out...
I'm gonna keep my trap shut here
When i look Charles laptimes, i think we will have p1 for sure no matter what, the new SF24 tires management its something special.