2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[Henri]

https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1832762998487744759? McLaren is on average 3 tenths slower than redbull bull in qualifying.

[Henri]

I am working on a tool which (amongst other things) will show stint data for races (and practice sessions) to get a better read on long-run pace. It's still WIP but I have made a lot of progress and I feel like I will be done with the initial vision as soon as I find a half-decent library for graphs in AngularJS ( if anyone knows any, feel free to dm ).

Anyway, I am not sure what the policy for advertisement of personally-developed tools is on this forum so I will refrain on making posts that are blatant ads.

I did want to share this snippet from Monza though :

https://i.imgur.com/GaBwh8h.png

This was probably the first race in which Lando struggled against Oscar in pure pace as well as tire management. Saudi comes to mind as well, but it's tough to get a proper read there because of how the race unfolded.

But if you notice on the second stint Lando can't keep up with Oscar and can't keep going as long as Oscar neither. Oscar's laptimes show a decline 18 laps into the stint and it's obvious that he has taken a lot out of his tires by this point. The 23.6 which he can barely hold for the last two laps of the second stint is the pace which Leclerc held out for the remaining of the race. Worth nothing that Charles didn't push as hard as Oscar early on, which helped him extend as well.

But back to the Lando v Oscar topic, it's interesting how in the last stint, Lando is doing quite well, even though he got stuck behind Max for a while. When Lando asked why he was struggling in the second stint, the engineer suggested that it was because of the dirty air in the earlier laps, but this did not hurt him at all in the last stint.

Ferrari drivers for reference :

https://i.imgur.com/E362Pef.png

Super impressive by Leclerc.

Will you make it piblic ?

[mwillems]

I am working on a tool which (amongst other things) will show stint data for races (and practice sessions) to get a better read on long-run pace. It's still WIP but I have made a lot of progress and I feel like I will be done with the initial vision as soon as I find a half-decent library for graphs in AngularJS ( if anyone knows any, feel free to dm ).

Anyway, I am not sure what the policy for advertisement of personally-developed tools is on this forum so I will refrain on making posts that are blatant ads.

I did want to share this snippet from Monza though :

https://i.imgur.com/GaBwh8h.png

This was probably the first race in which Lando struggled against Oscar in pure pace as well as tire management. Saudi comes to mind as well, but it's tough to get a proper read there because of how the race unfolded.

But if you notice on the second stint Lando can't keep up with Oscar and can't keep going as long as Oscar neither. Oscar's laptimes show a decline 18 laps into the stint and it's obvious that he has taken a lot out of his tires by this point. The 23.6 which he can barely hold for the last two laps of the second stint is the pace which Leclerc held out for the remaining of the race. Worth nothing that Charles didn't push as hard as Oscar early on, which helped him extend as well.

But back to the Lando v Oscar topic, it's interesting how in the last stint, Lando is doing quite well, even though he got stuck behind Max for a while. When Lando asked why he was struggling in the second stint, the engineer suggested that it was because of the dirty air in the earlier laps, but this did not hurt him at all in the last stint.

Ferrari drivers for reference :

https://i.imgur.com/E362Pef.png

Super impressive by Leclerc.

Thanks that's a really good post, you'll have to keep us up to date with the tool as it progresses.

You can see Lando and Oscar pushing each others lap times from around lap 24 on the second stint as they were racing each other and not the Ferraris. A key mistake in this GP, killing each others tyres and the team rather arrogantly discounting the threat from Ferrari. For Oscar you can see the struggle from 31 onwards to keep the car at the faster pace, but he keeps going anyway. At this point the tyres were likely very unhappy with their treatment as he'd tried to widen the gap to Lando in the face of Lando's "undercut", despite the fact that Lando wasn't really a threat.

Hopefully we will see the team and drivers with a healthy focus at Baku. It'd not a track we've done brilliantly at recently, but it looks like it could be an exciting weekend for all the top 4 teams.

[SiLo]

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I think something like this exists already? But I never know where the tool is.

If you are continuing, having some way to colour code the delta between compared laps of drivers would be very helpful.

[Emag]

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I think something like this exists already? But I never know where the tool is.

If you are continuing, having some way to colour code the delta between compared laps of drivers would be very helpful.

There are a lot of things out there, but I am trying to do some “jack of all trades” kind of thing, to get everything I like to analyse after a session in one place.

Ideas to improve will be welcome. Once I release it I will put a suggestion box.

[SiLo]

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I think something like this exists already? But I never know where the tool is.

If you are continuing, having some way to colour code the delta between compared laps of drivers would be very helpful.

There are a lot of things out there, but I am trying to do some “jack of all trades” kind of thing, to get everything I like to analyse after a session in one place.

Ideas to improve will be welcome. Once I release it I will put a suggestion box.

Just keeping it simple will go a long way to be honest. Some checkboxes for driver select and come colouring to differentiate times. What other things are you looking to implement?

[Emag]

I think something like this exists already? But I never know where the tool is.

If you are continuing, having some way to colour code the delta between compared laps of drivers would be very helpful.

There are a lot of things out there, but I am trying to do some “jack of all trades” kind of thing, to get everything I like to analyse after a session in one place.

Ideas to improve will be welcome. Once I release it I will put a suggestion box.

Just keeping it simple will go a long way to be honest. Some checkboxes for driver select and come colouring to differentiate times. What other things are you looking to implement?

Working on telemetry at the moment, but I can't seem to find a graph library that fits the needs of comparing laptimes & speeds. And unfortunately I don't really have the time to build one from the ground up.

But basically, what's left to do is that from the list of laps, you will be able to select up to *x of them and open up the telemetry tab, which will show a graph and a bar below where you can see which % of the lap was the fastest by who.

I already have a separate summary view for qualifying, showing the best laps of each selected driver as well as the minisectors for that lap (green, yellow or purple). Nothing I can do at the moment, but S3 is almost always bugged when it comes to minisectors, so hopefully that is something that is fixed in the future :

[mwillems]

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I think something like this exists already? But I never know where the tool is.

If you are continuing, having some way to colour code the delta between compared laps of drivers would be very helpful.

Yeah it's this, it shows you the delta between drivers on each lap but not the tyre compound.

Also a ton of other useful stuff.


https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2024/gp/s9273/lap_times

[FittingMechanics]

Are you really using AngularJS? Not Angular proper?

If so, AngularJS is probably a bad choice as it is discontinued.

[SiLo]

Trimmed

I think something like this exists already? But I never know where the tool is.

If you are continuing, having some way to colour code the delta between compared laps of drivers would be very helpful.

Yeah it's this, it shows you the delta between drivers on each lap but not the tyre compound.

Also a ton of other useful stuff.


https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2024/gp/s9273/lap_times

That's the one. It's very good.

[mwillems]

I think something like this exists already? But I never know where the tool is.

If you are continuing, having some way to colour code the delta between compared laps of drivers would be very helpful.

Yeah it's this, it shows you the delta between drivers on each lap but not the tyre compound.

Also a ton of other useful stuff.


https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2024/gp/s9273/lap_times

That's the one. It's very good.

Yeah. There's a few things missing like the track status per lap and the ability to drill into a lap etc but for me, it's great. amCharts looks great too.

[Emag]

Are you really using AngularJS? Not Angular proper?

If so, AngularJS is probably a bad choice as it is discontinued.

Bad habits with the naming, stuck with the old, but I am using angular 17.

[SilviuAgo]

Although hard to believe at the start of the 2024 campaign, and also now, I hope this statement will be true



Very nice comparison between McLaren and Red Bull in multiple areas: infrastructure, staff, drivers, car, upgrades etc

[geogate]

finding a little difficult to understand why ferrari are fancied so heavy for Baku, other than our old friend, recency bias - Isn't it the case that Baku is strongly a rear limited track?

[geogate]

btw, on the data website, this one is quite ambitious
this link comparing lando and oscar
https://www.f1nsight.com/#/driver-compa ... is/piastri

I found looking at 23 and then 24 season race results a really stark visualisation
the you look at qualifying and you can see what oscar has to do