2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 16:51
Charles explained that he didn't think Piastri would be able to brake that deep with the grip of the hards and that he also thought he'd be able to get him back with management, etc.
For the second time this year, Charles lets Oscar divebomb himself, this needs to be fixed.
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Would be nice to see comparison from Leclerc’s and Norris’ rear cam.

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ing. wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 16:56
DRS gap test should catch this.
Lol no

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IntrinsicVoid wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:07
Would be nice to see comparison from Leclerc’s and Norris’ rear cam.
Norris should be the same, they were running the same rear wing from FP2 and onwards (IIRC).

The laps being compared before were the fastest laps of the race for each driver and Oscar had DRS on that lap from a lapped Sauber. If you compare "normal" laps before it, the speed is pretty much the same.

As for Leclerc, no he doesn't have that. All flaps go down slightly under load, but that's normal. The interesting thing we haven't seen before is the twisting of the flap edges which open up the DRS opening slightly more than it would be normally.

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yooogurt wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:05
SoulPancake13 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 16:51
Charles explained that he didn't think Piastri would be able to brake that deep with the grip of the hards and that he also thought he'd be able to get him back with management, etc.
For the second time this year, Charles lets Oscar divebomb himself, this needs to be fixed.
Again, it is not so simple. McLaren were 5kph faster in the straight and had insane grip early on with the hard - they somehow found temp very quickly which I think Charles didn't predict(and fairly enough considering how much he struggled with warmup). The P2 came from the decision to stay out another lap, not the divebomb

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Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:10
Norris should be the same, they were running the same rear wing from FP2 and onwards (IIRC).
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The FIA need to revise all the testing rules. This is a massive advantage and against the regulations for sure. It could also be dangerous.

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yooogurt wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:12
Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:10
Norris should be the same, they were running the same rear wing from FP2 and onwards (IIRC).
On the left you don't have a comparison between Norris and Oscar, it just shows what was happening at low speed vs high speed.

And as I mentioned, the speed difference of their fastest laps (what's shown in the right) is because Oscar had DRS on his fastest lap :

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Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:13
yooogurt wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:12
Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:10
Norris should be the same, they were running the same rear wing from FP2 and onwards (IIRC).
On the left you don't have a comparison between Norris and Oscar, it just shows what was happening at low speed vs high speed.

And as I mentioned, the speed difference of their fastest laps (what's shown in the right) is because Oscar had DRS on his fastest lap :

https://i.imgur.com/cE2QpoZ.png
Piastri didn't have the DRS in that lap or the effect is so small that they don't go over 330 km/h?

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Ah great. Now in this thread as well. 🤦‍♂️

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Racing incident for Perez and Sainz in the end.

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While a disappointing end result with Leclerc not winning and Sainz dropping good points, the positive thing for me is that the supposed fastest car "McLaren", was nowhere near the fastest, actually of the 4 front cars, Piastri, Leclerc, Perez & Sainz, Piastri was the slowest and by a decent chunk, all 3 cars behind him were a good bit quicker, unfortunately not quite quick enough to make the pass but it was clear that Piastri was holding them all up just based on Sainz who was well adrift and closed the gap.

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dia6olo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:20
While a disappointing end result with Leclerc not winning and Sainz dropping good points, the positive thing for me is that the supposed fastest car "McLaren", was nowhere near the fastest, actually of the 4 front cars, Piastri, Leclerc, Perez & Sainz, Piastri was the slowest and by a decent chunk, all 3 cars behind him were a good bit quicker, unfortunately not quite quick enough to make the pass but it was clear that Piastri was holding them all up just based on Sainz who was well adrift and closed the gap.
What a wild take.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:21
dia6olo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:20
While a disappointing end result with Leclerc not winning and Sainz dropping good points, the positive thing for me is that the supposed fastest car "McLaren", was nowhere near the fastest, actually of the 4 front cars, Piastri, Leclerc, Perez & Sainz, Piastri was the slowest and by a decent chunk, all 3 cars behind him were a good bit quicker, unfortunately not quite quick enough to make the pass but it was clear that Piastri was holding them all up just based on Sainz who was well adrift and closed the gap.
What a wild take.
Not a wild take at all anyone with eyes and not wearing blinkers could see it :wink:

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FittingMechanics wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:21
dia6olo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 17:20
While a disappointing end result with Leclerc not winning and Sainz dropping good points, the positive thing for me is that the supposed fastest car "McLaren", was nowhere near the fastest, actually of the 4 front cars, Piastri, Leclerc, Perez & Sainz, Piastri was the slowest and by a decent chunk, all 3 cars behind him were a good bit quicker, unfortunately not quite quick enough to make the pass but it was clear that Piastri was holding them all up just based on Sainz who was well adrift and closed the gap.
What a wild take.
I wouldn't say Piastri was the slowest but Ferrari were definitely quick, you can't stay in DRS for 30 some laps here without being at least as quick as the other car