2024 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, Sep 13-15

[Rikhart]

That on McLaren is passive DRS.

Absolutely, this is a totally blatant breach of regulations. It's a mockery, they found out since it's creating this fake competition, anything goes at this point.

[avantman]

Sainz is following racing line.

No he isn't.

Correct, he is following his teammate aiming to get a slipstream. Well, he was trying to...
Very similar in core essence to Vettel/Leclerc incident in Brazil '19. That time though, most (or should I say 'all') Ferrari fans were of course blaming Vettel and Vettel alone, for...trying to get a slipstream of Albon, and on that occasion actually, following the racing line indeed.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Thoughts?

Can someone explain to me how the McLaren RW isn't in violation of this? (Not asking to instigate, but because I genuinely don't understand)

Any alteration of the incidence of the uppermost closed section may only be commanded by driver direct input and controlled using the control electronics.

Does this not count as the "uppermost closed section"?

[Matt2725]

That on McLaren is passive DRS.

And that is how F1 should be. Innovating, exploiting gray areas, technical development.

Sure. But it's also in clear violation of clearly defined technical regulations. As in, they aren't even vague on their interpretation.

[avantman]

That on McLaren is passive DRS.

And that is how F1 should be. Innovating, exploiting gray areas, technical development.

unless it's red bull(and verstappen doing so). Correct.

[avantman]

I'm not sure the world of Formula 1 has ever seen as blatant cheating as we see there. I'm quite frankly baffled by their audacity to run a car with such cheat, very obvious from the rear facing onboard cameras. Looks like they got a green flag from Domenicalli and Liberty directly. What Mercedes were doing in 2021( at least since France if not earlier) was in essence the same, but far more sophisticated, far more hidden and extremely tough to notice. It took red bull at least 5 races to catch the trick and even more to collect the evidences and push the FIA to force the MErcedes stop doing this on Hamilton car in Brazil. And what we see here, with Mclaren looks like a lot more substantial in terms of laptime benefit.

[Hoffman900]

I'm not sure the world of Formula 1 has ever seen as blatant cheating as we see there.

You must have only started watching F1 this year

[avantman]

I'm not sure the world of Formula 1 has ever seen as blatant cheating as we see there.

You must have only started watching F1 this year

25 years bud, haha, that was funny

[Hoffman900]

I'm not sure the world of Formula 1 has ever seen as blatant cheating as we see there.

You must have only started watching F1 this year

25 years bud, haha, that was funny

And in 25 years, this is the most blatent cheating?

This isn’t even cheating, and if it was, it wouldn’t even crack (pun intended) the top 20 of the last 25 years.

[pantherxxx]

No wonder Mclaren won.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... astri_car/

[falonso81]

The situation at McLaren is starting to look a bit like 2018 RedBull. Lando is in a weird position. Oscar is ruthless, he is taking no prisoners. As for their rear wing, i think FIA should take a closer look at. I would be very surprised if that thing is legal.

[PlatinumZealot]

That on McLaren is passive DRS.

Absolutely, this is a totally blatant breach of regulations. It's a mockery, they found out since it's creating this fake competition, anything goes at this point.

I think RedBull has a wing like this before. It js not new at all.

[thestig84]

I'm not sure the world of Formula 1 has ever seen as blatant cheating as we see there.

You must have only started watching F1 this year

Well said!!

25y follow up comment....either you have been asleep for 25 years or you are into recent trend for massive hyperbole

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That on McLaren is passive DRS.

And that is how F1 should be. Innovating, exploiting gray areas, technical development.

unless it's red bull(and verstappen doing so). Correct.

I never said that and you should keep your frustrations to yourself.

[emp]

That on McLaren is passive DRS.

And that is how F1 should be. Innovating, exploiting gray areas, technical development.

Sure. But it's also in clear violation of clearly defined technical regulations. As in, they aren't even vague on their interpretation.

I mean, if the FIA says it's ok (and until now they haven't said that it's not ok). It is possible that it gets banned next race. Or we get a new TD like the one who killed Ferrari in 2022. Or like they banned the Brabham fan car. Or the mass damper.

But teams have to try to gain every advantage possible. That is why F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport and engineering. Not because some people complain that driver X or Z isn't winning or that they see some conspiracy at every race.