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As much as I love him, that's why for me he can never be the GOAT. Lewis just has too many weekends where he's not at the races, Max might have one or two tops, the same for prime Schumacher, Senna, etc.
Lol. You know whats funny? You fall into the same set of people Papaya fan is talking about!
Lewis is actually the most consitent driver if going by data. It's just that his off days are scrutinized more than any other.
All the people you mentioned above had and do have their crappy days, and had many clumsy drives when the car was not there for them or old age, rankled by rival drivers etc. Just as much, if not more.
For me, Lewis is the GOAT considering his abilities inside the car, outside the car, wet weather, qualifying, race pace, overtaking, clean racing, politically agnostic, being welcoming to fans and rookies etc. It's hard to find another champion with as much balance in their qualities.
He really isn't, how often did you see Senna, Schumacher, Verstappen, etc lost for pace and missing for the weekend. Yes they made some costly errors but apart from an elderly Schumacher who'd been out of the sport for 3 years they seldom struggled for pace. I just don't think Hamilton has that out and out speed to be classed in their league.
Yawn.
So you think he's fluked his way all these years huh. No stunning drives, No flash Qualy laps, No inter team battles with top team mates. No championship battles etc You have to be a complete hater to think he's not been one of the best in the sport. I really can't stand these arguments because there petty and trivial. You can't be in this sport from 2007 - 2024 with the credentials he has and not put him in the top elite with those 3 you mentioned. Even at his old man age he's still kept in there with these topsy turvy Merc cars with a competitive team mate alongside.
Either your trolling or your need to do your research mate.
“And that’s part of the game, is being able to be adaptive, and we’ve got this new car – I don’t know how it’s going to handle, hopefully she’s great.”
As much as I love him, that's why for me he can never be the GOAT. Lewis just has too many weekends where he's not at the races, Max might have one or two tops, the same for prime Schumacher, Senna, etc.
Lol. You know whats funny? You fall into the same set of people Papaya fan is talking about!
Lewis is actually the most consitent driver if going by data. It's just that his off days are scrutinized more than any other.
All the people you mentioned above had and do have their crappy days, and had many clumsy drives when the car was not there for them or old age, rankled by rival drivers etc. Just as much, if not more.
For me, Lewis is the GOAT considering his abilities inside the car, outside the car, wet weather, qualifying, race pace, overtaking, clean racing, politically agnostic, being welcoming to fans and rookies etc. It's hard to find another champion with as much balance in their qualities.
He really isn't, how often did you see Senna, Schumacher, Verstappen, etc lost for pace and missing for the weekend. Yes they made some costly errors but apart from an elderly Schumacher who'd been out of the sport for 3 years they seldom struggled for pace. I just don't think Hamilton has that out and out speed to be classed in their league.
Max rookie season doesn't compare. Max took too long to dispatch Sainz and Ricciardo. And he has always gotten preferential treatment.. That alone rules him out of the running.
Anyway why is Max mentioned so much in this thread?
Hope he is not mentioned at all in Ferrari 2025 thread!
“The last race, I was like ‘I love the car, don’t change it too much’. The really, really small changes that I made – one of the components – did completely the opposite of what it’s supposed to do and we didn’t find out until the end of the day.
Isn't he just saying that a change simply didn't pan out? That's different something being physically broken.
His literal words from the race weekend was that the part "wasnt built properly", so id take his answer here as trying to be kind to the team while still telling the truth.
