2024 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 20 - 22

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Paa
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Carmack wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:15
Paa wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 16:25
erudite450 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 15:48
That's poor sportsmanship by RB pitting Ricciardo to take away Norris' fastest lap point.
This is rich coming after what Norris did to Perez in Baku.
I'm not saying either is wrong, this is racing, just please try not to be a hypocrite.
What did he do differently than Perez in Abu Dhabi 21, putting on his handbrake against Hamilton...get real
Where did I say it was wrong?
Read the post again.

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chrisc90
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Re: 2024 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 20 - 22

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Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Vanja #66
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Is it end of the ride for Daniel definitely? :(
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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TFSA wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:25
cliffgamerz wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:09
For one weekend if RB takes FL at the end of the race by deliberately stopping for soft tyres it's fine as i don't mind that, but what if in remaining all races they continue the same trend to steal FL at the end of the race by pitting last at last couple of laps and then steal from only Norris then would you be fine with that?
Depends on the circumstances. If you're out of the points and don't stand to lose anything (Ricciardo was close to dead last, in what is likely his last race), then as i said, backmarkers doing this isn't uncommon. If it's done systematically, then of course - but we're just imagining things right now. That hasn't happened yet.

The thing about me is that i hate conspiracies, so if people are gonna make them, then they need to do better than pointing to something that simply isn't that uncommon. Otherwise I'm inclined to crack down on it. :mrgreen:

I don't see anything suspicious about what happened here, other than the fact it was done by VCARB. If it was done by any other team, then nobody would bat an eye. Max getting told Lando lost FL in a championship battle isn't suspicious either - we've seen it happen before, because drivers are naturally curious about how much they gained/lost, just as Lando frequently also got told he got DotD by his engineer at the end of races. And Max thanking Ricciardo for it is not unreasonable either, because they have a history as teammates - especially if he also knows that its Ricciardos last race.

So at best, you have one suspicious indicator, which is already shaky. You need more - this hardly even qualifies as a conspiracy. :roll:
My question was totally different to what you answered with, i also said its fine by me that Ricardo took the FL this week, my question was what if VCARB does this on purpose on remaining races would this be good for the sport, it definitely ain't as no team want a potentially B team interfering the championship on purpose despite RB denying they have an B team. And no i am trying to fuel an conspiracy as this is an genuine issue in the sport currently.

Only solution to this problem by FIA would be to deny FL to drivers outside top 10 scoring position and avoiding such things from happening moving forward. And i think this would clear any issues moving forward, whether its deliberate attempt or genuine one as someone outside top 10 can still have name on FL but not points awarded as anyone can do that on purpose who has had terrible race to deny their rival from scoring additional point if they are a lap down or so.

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Just take the FL point away, then it becomes pointless (no pun intended haha) to pit for a FL at the end.


Never known so many people become so hurt over 1 point.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:27
Is it end of the ride for Daniel definitely? :(
I really wonder what’s going on internally in Red Bull for them to go from wanting to promote Ricciardo to RBR to dropping him in the span of 5 races.

My guess is they (used very loosely here, probably one of Horner and Marko) wanted to get rid of either Perez or Ricciardo. They tried to get rid of Perez but he was saved last second by some kind of threat of legal action. After that they basically had no choice but to force Daniel out.

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mzso wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:41
Xero wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 16:44
chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 16:42
Dannys interview with Lawerence Boretto on F1Tv. Oh man.... Emotional.

This was his last race
Definitely sounded like it! Will be sad to lose him, but everyone has their time.
This sounds like quite a conjecture. No reports of him not finishing the year so far.
May be the case, but all his post-race interviews were so telling.

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What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.
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cliffgamerz wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:32
My question was totally different to what you answered with, i also said its fine by me that Ricardo took the FL this week, my question was what if VCARB does this on purpose on remaining races would this be good for the sport, it definitely ain't as no team want a potentially B team interfering the championship on purpose despite RB denying they have an B team. And no i am trying to fuel an conspiracy as this is an genuine issue in the sport currently.
I did answer that :-)
If it's done systematically, then of course - but we're just imagining things right now. That hasn't happened yet.
The rest was just my general perspective.

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langedweil wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:48
What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.
If it's not about what we think it is.. then that's pretty hard to predict isn't it

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organic wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:00
langedweil wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:48
What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.
If it's not about what we think it is.. then that's pretty hard to predict isn't it
Danny to RBR and Perez out allowing Lawson in?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:01
organic wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:00
langedweil wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:48
What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.
If it's not about what we think it is.. then that's pretty hard to predict isn't it
Danny to RBR and Perez out allowing Lawson in?
Checo’s Mexican telecoms backers say no…

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chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:01
organic wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:00
langedweil wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:48
What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.
If it's not about what we think it is.. then that's pretty hard to predict isn't it
Danny to RBR and Perez out allowing Lawson in?
No

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erudite450 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 15:48
That's poor sportsmanship by RB pitting Ricciardo to take away Norris' fastest lap point.
Yes, how dare that team "take away" a world championship point from your favourite, the nerve of some people!

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chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:01
organic wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:00
langedweil wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:48
What is he rattling on about !?
Edit: post deleted already

Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.
If it's not about what we think it is.. then that's pretty hard to predict isn't it
Danny to RBR and Perez out allowing Lawson in?
Perez and Ricciardo out Lawson and some other driver in.