2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[ToffeeTyres]

They are always making changes to the car. It was fine stop faffing with it. That was shocking probably one of the worst qualifying Lewis has done.

[Luscion]

Lewis Hamilton: "We had a front suspension failure on the Formation Lap before the Sprint and I had to race that in the Sprint. I think I'll start from the pit lane tomorrow because the car is a nightmare.

According to Ted, Merc confirmed this was an issue but didnt say that it happened again in quali. something to do with a bearing

[j_ste]

Looks like he just tried to get the car to do something, that the car refused to do…At turn 19

[Luscion]

Looks like he just tried to get the car to do something, that the car refused to do…At turn 19

Yea doesnt seem like Russell did anything wrong, the car just said "nah"

[RacePaceDemon]

What a joke, it's like the w13 again, trying to kill the pair of them

George may end up starting behind lewis or with him in the pit lane!!

[Juzh]

Looks like he just tried to get the car to do something, that the car refused to do…At turn 19

Yea doesnt seem like Russell did anything wrong, the car just said "nah"

He goes in too fast, that's it. Of course russell binned it on it's own.

[j_ste]

Reminded me of Lewis’ crash in Austria 2022. When you’re chasing that little extra, you sometimes get a slap

[SKYnRacing24]

Thats what you get merc for running these mad setups between sessions and putting the car on a knife edge. Crazy how the car let go there at that corner for Russell. Lewis will pretty much have another experimental setup for tomorrows race. Its simply not good enough. The development has been hit and miss but the main thing to me is this car is bog standard. Im sorry to rant but regardless of the 3 wins viewing this car onboard from both cars has been a death trap at times. They still don't understand these ground effect cars and basically THEY ARE SCREWED. You can't be going down these blind alleys and not expect the W16 (Possibly even the W17) to have some of its inherent flaws of the W15.

[dialtone]

Unfortunately no telemetry of the lap where RUS crashed so won't be able to tell if it's due to speed or what speed difference we're talking about.
RUS again asked "no idea what's different with the car today vs yesterday" which is obviously weird since he knows it's 10C hotter.

It's a strange crash but ultimately this car really is a terrible car.

[Luscion]

Thats what you get merc for running these mad setups between sessions and putting the car on a knife edge. Crazy how the car let go there at that corner for Russell. Lewis will pretty much have another experimental setup for tomorrows race. Its simply not good enough. The development has been hit and miss but the main thing to me is this car is bog standard. Im sorry to rant but regardless of the 3 wins viewing this car onboard from both cars has been a death trap at times. They still don't understand these ground effect cars and basically THEY ARE SCREWED. You can't be going down these blind alleys and not expect the W16 (Possibly even the W17) to have some of its inherent flaws of the W15.

its a big upgrade package on a sprint weekend, the car showed signs of improvement yesterday with Lewis' quali times but then both cars ate their tires come the sprint, sometimes you need a couple weekends to dial it in, but saying that theres still a lot of problems with Merc, still have a car that overheats its rear tires, is very sensitive to temperature, while better than the W13 and 14 still has a relatively narrow setup window

[Luscion]

George Russell says he’s “a little bit confused why Lewis and I were fighting for front row yesterday and today we were nowhere.”

[venkyhere]

Looks like he just tried to get the car to do something, that the car refused to do…At turn 19

Yea doesnt seem like Russell did anything wrong, the car just said "nah"

He goes in too fast, that's it. Of course russell binned it on it's own.

it's a classic case of oversteery balance leading to a snap in a high speed corner.
Too much front DF w.r.t rear OR too little rear DF w.r.t front.

[Jdn1327]

The fact that both drivers have won a race this year is a miracle. This car seems like a shadow of what it was is Spa and Silverstone. Russell definitely was not at fault for his accident. You need to be able to trust the car going into those turns. This car is like a wicked ex girlfriend...

[Dunlay]

Yea doesnt seem like Russell did anything wrong, the car just said "nah"

He goes in too fast, that's it. Of course russell binned it on it's own.

it's a classic case of oversteery balance leading to a snap in a high speed corner.
Too much front DF w.r.t rear OR too little rear DF w.r.t front.

I wish Mercedes knew this simple fact! Of all the high speed corners, that's the one place such a simple issue strikes!

[DGP123]

Nothing new really, Another weekend written off.

They’ve ballsed this entire regulation up, and they’ve produced another dog. Beyond embarrassing now, hence why Lewis is leaving. I envisage 25’ being similar, if not worse, with a young, inexperienced KA there.

Basically, Merc are waiting for 26’ now, and hoping the engine bails them out. They don’t have the brains there anymore to understand this, to ultimately find the answers. Shambolic really.