2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[dialtone]

For those who missed it, the wing flex is now similar to the competitor, so quickly and efficiently developed and deployed, it's impressive though.

We're discussing this in the flexiwing thread, but Ferrari is still behind them all. They all flex more than this and McLaren just looks like it's bending the whole car together with the wing from the nose camera.

More gain here will come next year, they can exploit it more.

[Emag]

For those who missed it, the wing flex is now similar to the competitor, so quickly and efficiently developed and deployed, it's impressive though.

Doesn't look different from Singapore and I doubt it's not an intentional choice by them. The SF23 last year was similar too

If they wanted the wing to flex more they would have made a wing that flexes more.

[Vanja #66]

We're discussing this in the flexiwing thread, but Ferrari is still behind them all. They all flex more than this and McLaren just looks like it's bending the whole car together with the wing from the nose camera.

More gain here will come next year, they can exploit it more.

Getting the balance and CoP migration between low and high speed corners just right is crucial. Red Bull and Ferrari have been working on achieving it without a noodle wing and this is now limiting them exploiting flex wings further. You'll notice Red Bull is moderately flexible up to around 280+ kmh and then starts to bend a lot more to get drag benefit, while Ferrari is now flexing at even lower speeds than Singapore but hardly at all past 250-260 kmh. Both cars will be designed with different flexing targets and capabilities in mind for next year

[Seanspeed]

We're discussing this in the flexiwing thread, but Ferrari is still behind them all. They all flex more than this and McLaren just looks like it's bending the whole car together with the wing from the nose camera.

More gain here will come next year, they can exploit it more.

That, or FIA introduces much stricter deflection tests, which is all the same a boon for Ferrari.

[Vanja #66]

How much did Ferrari improve in a year in Austin? About 4s per lap in early race pace and it's evident everywhere. Obviously, part of the improvement comes from resurfacing and fresh asphalt, but Ferrari still made a bigger improvement than McLaren (I took later laps for Norris, since he was quite conservative early in the race).

In the snake and high-speed right-hander in S3 the improvement is shocking

[bananapeel23]

How much did Ferrari improve in a year in Austin? About 4s per lap in early race pace and it's evident everywhere. Obviously, part of the improvement comes from resurfacing and fresh asphalt, but Ferrari still made a bigger improvement than McLaren (I took later laps for Norris, since he was quite conservative early in the race).

In the snake and high-speed right-hander in S3 the improvement is shocking

The crazy part is that he seems to be doing a lot of LiCo or is suffering from clipping in the 2024 reference lap and manages the massive improvement in spite of that. His speed is clearly dropping off before he hits the brakes.

Now surely the vast majority of the improvement is down to the resurfacing though? 1-2 seconds seems likely, but 4 seconds would be one of the most insane year on year improvements ever in a stable regulation set.

[Vanja #66]

The crazy part is that he seems to be doing a lot of LiCo or is suffering from clipping in the 2024 reference lap and manages the massive improvement in spite of that. His speed is clearly dropping off before he hits the brakes.

Now surely the vast majority of the improvement is down to the resurfacing though? 1-2 seconds seems likely, but 4 seconds would be one of the most insane year on year improvements ever in a stable regulation set.

All laps are like that with typical clipping, it's not LiCo. 2023 lap was the one before Hamilton got him, so there's defensive ERS setting already.

Well, resurfacing was worth 1s in Monza at most. Track temp, tyre window, wind, there's lots of different aspects involved which is why I took Norris' laps and 2.8s improvement as another reference. Max was down the grid a bit in 23, so in dirty air and subsequent laps in Stints 2 and 3 can't be compared with 24 Hard laps directly because of how differently the two races went with tyre deg.

[ScuderiaLeo]

As expected, just the cooling parts for Ferrari.



McLaren, on the other hand, has an entirely new floor...

[Z-one]

As expected, just the cooling parts for Ferrari.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gav2-nuXAAA ... name=large

McLaren, on the other hand, has an entirely new floor...

Chance for Ferrari，if they are in the trap pretty much everyone fell into this season of chasing performance

[ScuderiaLeo]

At least it doesn't look like much damage, but that's one car down for data.

[Emag]

Carlos a second per lap faster in the long runs, but not sure how useful the data of this session is.

[Fakepivot]

race pace looking good..

[bananapeel23]

https://i.imgur.com/9IhYFEg.png

Carlos a second per lap faster in the long runs, but not sure how useful the data of this session is.

Honestly starting to believe it with how ridiculous their pace was in the US GP. That front wing seems to have improved performance in basically every regard.

[ScuderiaLeo]

https://i.imgur.com/9IhYFEg.png

Carlos a second per lap faster in the long runs, but not sure how useful the data of this session is.

I don't think Piastri is a good benchmark for this stuff, we'd need Norris since the majority of time he's much faster than Piastri.

That aside, Sainz's pace still looks good on its own.

I wonder how relevant the FP2 will be with the different tires.

[dialtone]

1.22 is a last stint in race from last year although Ferrari didn’t do a low 1.22 but only a high 1.22 with SAI.

Race sims from FP2 were 1:24s.

Quali sim from fp2 was 1:19.3.

Car is 1s faster than fp2 last year.