2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[Ben1980]

Has Norris waved the white flag? I can't remember when was the last time a championship contender admitted that his rival is better than him in the middle of a championship fight. This kind of honesty is uncommon.

Isn't that just saying he is better at a certain style of attack and defence, in part because he's done it more?

Seems to be quite obvious, pretty common when a younger driver goes up to someone more experienced at the sharp end.

[mwillems]

Has Norris waved the white flag? I can't remember when was the last time a championship contender admitted that his rival is better than him in the middle of a championship fight. This kind of honesty is uncommon.

He said Max is better at a certain type of defense and attack, and in itself, it was almost a backhanded compliment, suggesting that it shouldn't be how they race.

[dialtone]

Yeah I don’t see it as giving up, I see it as a maturity point. The quote taken out of the context he was speaking in gives the wrong vibe, and for a bit I was puzzled, but reading it all he’s spot on and he shows reflection which is a key part of learning and growth.

Good for Lando.

[taperoo2k]

Has Norris waved the white flag? I can't remember when was the last time a championship contender admitted that his rival is better than him in the middle of a championship fight. This kind of honesty is uncommon.

He said Max is better at a certain type of defense and attack, and in itself, it was almost a backhanded compliment, suggesting that it shouldn't be how they race.

Pretty much saying "There's one set of rules for Max and another set of rules for everyone else". McLaren have nothing to lose from challenging the decision from the last race. I just want to see the stewards making consistent decisions that are applied properly no matter who the driver is.

[FittingMechanics]

New floor brought to Mexico.

Let's see good FPs and win this race.

[Macklaren]

Lets hope Pato doesnt bin it

[mwillems]

Has Norris waved the white flag? I can't remember when was the last time a championship contender admitted that his rival is better than him in the middle of a championship fight. This kind of honesty is uncommon.

He said Max is better at a certain type of defense and attack, and in itself, it was almost a backhanded compliment, suggesting that it shouldn't be how they race.

Pretty much saying "There's one set of rules for Max and another set of rules for everyone else". McLaren have nothing to lose from challenging the decision from the last race. I just want to see the stewards making consistent decisions that are applied properly no matter who the driver is.

I don't think he suggested any bias whatsoever, seems like you are simply projecting your own opinion on to it.

[CjC]

New floor brought to Mexico.

Let's see good FPs and win this race.

New parts coming for Brazil as well
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10666664/

[SilviuAgo]

The new McLaren floor will be on Lando Norris' car only this weekend!

[trinidefender]

This is not even close to true. Even the british press doesn’t agree with the ruling. What you meant is they agree with the penalty on Norris, not on the ruling which missed the penalty on Max.

It's interesting how always the guys that come here and claim everyone agrees with the ruling have their most active topic a Red Bull one. I wonder why?

It's not a claim, it literally was 98% of everyone .. even Kravitz. And the consequence comes through ruling, so let's not word-salad ..

But what I said is not pissing about the ruling, and they absolutely should have the right to appeal .. except it brings the wrong energy to the team, even if they might have a point. For instance, I always found the power of Stella his silence, and silently deliver way more than even expected.
It's way more powerful than to blend in with Horner and Toto.
And why I say that is that I genuinely hope McL can have a serious dab at de WDC. Engineering over TP drama queens ..
They deserve a title, if only for stamina reasons !

What is missed by almost every single pundit and journalist is the bit that says “The car being overtaken must be capable of making the corner while remaining within the limits of the track.” The use of the word “must” is very deliberate and leaves no room for interpretation.

By this logic Max should have received a penalty no question asked. Ergo Lando was forced off track and had no choice (even backing out would probably have caused an accident) and should not receive a penalty. He was so far alongside thinking the overtake was done which, and let’s be honest, if Max drove in a way that allowed him to stay on track it would have been done that he would have been ahead anyway.

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... elines.pdf

[Darth-Piekus]

The thing is that if Max braked earlier as he should do to take the apex then he would have been behind.

By the way? How did the appeal go? Did they rejected it or is there a possibility that the unfair penalty could be overturned?

[chrisc90]

The thing is that if Max braked earlier as he should do to take the apex then he would have been behind.

By the way? How did the appeal go? Did they rejected it or is there a possibility that the unfair penalty could be overturned?

Video meeting at 2.30pm Mexico time - so somewhere between fp1 and fp2.

[Darth-Piekus]

I see. I hope they give it their all to remove that penalty or at least make Max get also a 5 second penalty since he was the one that forced another car off the track considering he never managed to turn the apex and he was with all 4 wheels out of bounds. That will bring Max to 5th behind Piastri while Norris will be third. I don't believe they are gonna change their decision as this will make them loop like clowns in the eyes of the world but it will send the message that Mclaren won't be like Mercedes to accept thievery.

[Emag]

Interesting, they told the same thing to Pato earlier in the session too. This is the first low downforce track since Baku. Maybe running some tests to see how much they have lost on the straights without DRS now that the wing was forced to be changed?

[Balalu]

And they didin't even investigate t1, lap1, simply because it was t1, lap 1, which shoulden't be.

For such a high caliber organization, the stewards are a mess.

When will things change? After a driver, God forbid, gets maimed or killed?

Kudos for Max for getting away with it, simply because he knows he can. But one day, the stars will align, and...