Seanspeed wrote: ↑27 Oct 2024, 01:31
Emag wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024, 23:14
That wasn't a reply to you so I don't know why you're replying to it.
As for the rest, I don't argue that McLaren should have been the team with the most race wins this season. What I do argue about is when people claim that they have had enough pace in hand to have easily won every race since Miami and that is just not true. The car hasn't been anywhere close to being the dominant force at every track and some of the races they lost, were lost because they required absolute perfect execution to overcome the tight margins. They failed to deliver and that's not really shocking considering this is the first time they find themselves fighting for wins after a decade. Even then, the only true clusterf*ck was Silverstone.
The reason why people are unwilling to acknowledge that McLaren threw Lando's WDC away, is because it's not true. Lando has thrown points away from mistakes of his own, but people act like he has thrown away the win every race since Miami.
And also people forget that they started the season at race 5. Max was already too far ahead by the time Miami came around and them being slower than Ferrari early on meant that they were getting very little points while Max was getting P1 every race.
Still, the WCC is still possible for them to win, so it's not a complete failure of a season as some people here suggest.
Your comment started out reasonable, but then you went to this defense of how Mclaren/Lando are not actually at fault for their championship situation, which is cope. You're trying to make some extreme argument "Lando has thrown away the win every race" when that's not what people are actually saying. Just that they've blown enough opportunities with the best car that it's inexcusable.
If you're a
reasonable Mclaren fan, you should be extremely annoyed by it, not trying to run defense.
Extremely annoyed by it? By what? I don't think any of us should be telling each other how we should feel to be honest.
If every time we FEEL our team or driver should have done better and get extremely annoyed by it our F1 experience will be pretty volatile. My own feeling is that, broad picture, McLaren have overachieved in 2024. If in April we were told our team would be leading the WCC in six months we would all say you're barmy. Could the team and Lando have done better? Absolutely - Silverstone was a shocker. Mercedes - they've been absolute rubbish by their standards. Ferrari -what the hell were they and especially Charles doing between Canada and Zandvoort? Red Bull have been flattered by the relentless brilliance of Max - his best F1 season. The team lost their way. Instead of lambasting them we need to know this is a very tough sport to be continually on top of.
For McLaren there was some pretty bad luck, and some brilliance. Lando was disappearing into the spray at threat of 2 seconds a lap at Canada before a yellow turned the race. You could say unstable weather at GB and Spa compromised McLaren's performance. Think the evidence points the McLaren being a tricky beast at times but always the mix for podiums. If that's running defence then fine - I call balls and strikes and McLaren haven't done a terrible job. People like Buxton trying to tell McLaren how to run their team is arrogant and IMO, lacking in objectivity.
