2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Tommy.G wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:57
chrisc90 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:54
Well, that was terrible. Stupid driving from Max against Lando in the opening. 1st one I dont think was a penalty, the 2nd one was IMHO. Still not even going to try make excuses for that.

10points loss to Lando now. 48points in 4 races plus a sprint.

I did say 10points loss would be about where we wanted to be. But could have done more damage limitation.

Lets hope thats the worst of the remaining 4 races.
2 Sprints**

Brazil, Qatar
All the worse. Mclaren was fastest there even last year, this year they will dominate singapore style, and ferrari will not be as fast on that track to mess with his race due to all the fast corners which they still do not like.

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Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:58
chrisc90 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:54
Well, that was terrible. Stupid driving from Max against Lando in the opening. 1st one I dont think was a penalty, the 2nd one was IMHO. Still not even going to try make excuses for that.

10points loss to Lando now. 48points in 4 races plus a sprint.

I did say 10points loss would be about where we wanted to be. But could have done more damage limitation.

Lets hope thats the worst of the remaining 4 races.
How? I just don't see it, pace was terrible in second stint.
Not getting +20s added to the time would have been nice tbh.

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Gaining a lasting advantage. Interesting.

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AR3-GP wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:49
Sergej wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:38
disaster weekend in terms of points, and we have the engine penalty awaiting us in Brazil, not good
Silver lining. If Max didn't disrupt Norris, Norris could have won and Max would have finished 4th (13 points loss). As it ended, Norris came P2 and Max P6, so the loss is only 10 points.

Car is garbage though.
I don't care. I really disliked Max's attitude today, what could be so hard in just cruise behind Lando without those stupid moves ? at this point I fear that he will throw away more points in the next races if he happens to be in similar situations. I'm really let down right now.

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None of the remaining tracks suit Red Bull

Brazil: Bad in 2022. Mclaren already nipping at their heels in 2023
Qatar: No front end
Las Vegas: street track, curbs, bumps...
Abu Dhabi: Slow speed corners, bad.
A lion must kill its prey.

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PierreW wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:49
6th was best he could do, even without the ridiculous penalties. Mercedes was faster , as well as Haas on hard tyres.

He did his best to hold the McLaren at the start and give the Ferrari some headstart but Leclerc did a mistake. At least Sainz delivered.
Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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chrisc90 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:00
Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:58
chrisc90 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:54
Well, that was terrible. Stupid driving from Max against Lando in the opening. 1st one I dont think was a penalty, the 2nd one was IMHO. Still not even going to try make excuses for that.

10points loss to Lando now. 48points in 4 races plus a sprint.

I did say 10points loss would be about where we wanted to be. But could have done more damage limitation.

Lets hope thats the worst of the remaining 4 races.
How? I just don't see it, pace was terrible in second stint.
Not getting +20s added to the time would have been nice tbh.
If Max hadn't done what he did to get 20 seconds penalty, Lando would have won the race.
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Max pushes ver the limit in T4, but T8 penalty was total BS. Total joke, to quote one particularly brilliant brain from Mercedes :lol:

Okish damage limitation with P6, I had him at P5 before the weekend and losing 15p to Norris tbh. If he wasn't so hot with Norris, would have been -6p, so just 4p more lost is not that bad
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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chrisc90 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:00
Gillian wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:58
chrisc90 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:54
Well, that was terrible. Stupid driving from Max against Lando in the opening. 1st one I dont think was a penalty, the 2nd one was IMHO. Still not even going to try make excuses for that.

10points loss to Lando now. 48points in 4 races plus a sprint.

I did say 10points loss would be about where we wanted to be. But could have done more damage limitation.

Lets hope thats the worst of the remaining 4 races.
How? I just don't see it, pace was terrible in second stint.
Not getting +20s added to the time would have been nice tbh.
20 seconds is a joke and kneejerk reaction after last race. He deserved only 1 penalty imo. But he still held up Norris long enough to avoid a win for him. If Leclerc would have been slightly less unlucky, Norris would have been P3.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:05
Max pushes ver the limit in T4, but T8 penalty was total BS. Total joke, to quote one particularly brilliant brain from Mercedes :lol:

Okish damage limitation with P6, I had him at P5 before the weekend and losing 15p to Norris tbh. If he wasn't so hot with Norris, would have been -6p, so just 4p more lost is not that bad
That was actually the worse one of the two. Did you see the onboards? He just blasted into the inside and pushed Lando off while going halfway across the country himself too.

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proteus wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:04
PierreW wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:49
6th was best he could do, even without the ridiculous penalties. Mercedes was faster , as well as Haas on hard tyres.

He did his best to hold the McLaren at the start and give the Ferrari some headstart but Leclerc did a mistake. At least Sainz delivered.
Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...

Yes, ridiculous, he only deserved 10 seconds, or maybe even 5 seconds like Norris last time.

But there is a huge anti Verstappen campaign and some people want Norris and McLaren to win and bring back the title to the british islands.

The FIA even said they were thinking about changing the rules to penalize Max eventough he acted brilliantly last week following these rules.

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Max lost 10 points to Lando by doing what he did, but if he didn't do it, Lando might have won the race, and even if Max without any penalties got 4th, that would have been 13 points more to Lando. So didn't it work out OK for Max considering the car he has at the moment?

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Emag wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:08
Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:05
Max pushes ver the limit in T4, but T8 penalty was total BS. Total joke, to quote one particularly brilliant brain from Mercedes :lol:

Okish damage limitation with P6, I had him at P5 before the weekend and losing 15p to Norris tbh. If he wasn't so hot with Norris, would have been -6p, so just 4p more lost is not that bad
That was actually the worse one of the two. Did you see the onboards? He just blasted into the inside and pushed Lando off while going halfway across the country himself too.
Late brake and understeer, was fully ahead of Norris. Lando should have left him room and switch back easily, Max would have looked like a total amateur in that case
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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PierreW wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:08
proteus wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:04
PierreW wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:49
6th was best he could do, even without the ridiculous penalties. Mercedes was faster , as well as Haas on hard tyres.

He did his best to hold the McLaren at the start and give the Ferrari some headstart but Leclerc did a mistake. At least Sainz delivered.
Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...

Yes, ridiculous, he only deserved 10 seconds, or maybe even 5 seconds like Norris last time.

But there is a huge anti Verstappen campaign and some people want Norris and McLaren to win and bring back the title to the british islands.

The FIA even said they were thinking about changing the rules to penalize Max eventough he acted brilliantly last week following these rules.
These penalties were long due. The stupidities he is performing this year should award him a race ban in my opinion. And this comes from a someone who actually likes him. Even if Lando doesnt get the title, he is a class above in the racing culture this season. Max went far too dirty, sore loser to say the least and RedBull is willing to throw away the WCC for it as well.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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proteus wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:15
PierreW wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:08
proteus wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:04


Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...

Yes, ridiculous, he only deserved 10 seconds, or maybe even 5 seconds like Norris last time.

But there is a huge anti Verstappen campaign and some people want Norris and McLaren to win and bring back the title to the british islands.

The FIA even said they were thinking about changing the rules to penalize Max eventough he acted brilliantly last week following these rules.
These penalties were long due. The stupidities he is performing this year should award him a race ban in my opinion. And this comes from a someone who actually likes him. Even if Lando doesnt get the title, he is a class above in the racing culture this season. Max went far too dirty, sore loser to say the least and RedBull is willing to throw away the WCC for it as well.

Yes, I am sure you are very unbiased with this avatar.

Norris is good, but the fact that Verstappen retain a lead so far with a car this bad speak volume about his driving superiority at this moment.