Wow another sub 2s this year. World record is 1.88 right?
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Wow another sub 2s this year. World record is 1.88 right?
1.80s in Qatar 2023 - famous one with the Alfa mechanic looking at the McLaren pitstop.
It definitely smells fishy. Last two races Max has had really good qualifying pace but he has been completely off in the race.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 10:191.80s in Qatar 2023 - famous one with the Alfa mechanic.
I think 1.9s was the fastest one this year. Great to see the team on top of pitstops as well. Every bit could matted.
Btw, maybe the bib thing really was used. Red Bull race pace looks quite bad ever since.
I've been thinking that maybe it is because their car specs are not the same because Norris got the upgrade (in Austin wing, now floor). I seem to remember that Piastri usually struggles when Norris gets the upgrades. This "next week I get the upgrades so it will be better" is not first time I heard it.
This puts the team fight for the constructors in jeopardy, for me this behavior is not acceptable.
To my understanding, the team only tested the updates, they did not raced them, Norris confirmed the same after qualy in Texas, also for this race PIA was able to match Lando all weekend till he decided not to.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 11:56I've been thinking that maybe it is because their car specs are not the same because Norris got the upgrade (in Austin wing, now floor). I seem to remember that Piastri usually struggles when Norris gets the upgrades. This "next week I get the upgrades so it will be better" is not first time I heard it.
Maybe he is not as good at getting the best setup of the car on his own so when Norris is on a different car spec it ends up being a bigger issue than on normal weekends where he can follow Norris lead on setup. I've seen that he is very often coached over the radio about where he can get extract more laptime, I am sure this is compared to Norris.
Maybe someone else remembers other times Piastri struggled and whether it correlates.
Andrea Stella said that Piastri will have the upgrades in Brazil so hopefully he bounces back.
In the race debrief (video) I think it is clear that Norris raced with the upgrades and that Piastri did not. Stella went out of his way to say that Piastri will get the upgrade in Brazil.
My upgrades comment was for Texas, here again PIA matched NOR in pace all weekend untill he decided he did not want to, are you saying that the Mclaren on a 12 laps newer tires is slower than Haas? PIA and his manager are playing a stupid game, they will runin the teams chances for Championship just to prove a point.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 12:10In the race debrief (video) I think it is clear that Norris raced with the upgrades and that Piastri did not. Stella went out of his way to say that Piastri will get the upgrade in Brazil.
I really don't think Piastri is doing this on purpose. He is hurting his chances if he does this. Bortoleto looks good in F2, I'm sure plenty of other drivers would love to jump into a McLaren nowadays so I am not convinced it is being done on purpose. Zak sacked Ricciardo and paid out a hefty sum, I'm sure he can get Piastri out of that seat if he senses anything fishy.bauc wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 12:12My upgrades comment was for Texas, here again PIA matched NOR in pace all weekend untill he decided he did not want to, are you saying that the Mclaren on a 12 laps newer tires is slower than Haas? PIA and his manager are playing a stupid game, they will runin the teams chances for Championship just to prove a point.
Be objective. It's not about the updates. It's about Oscar's own mistakes. Oscar himself even admitted it after the race. His time in third practice was 1.16.492, right? He could have done it again in qualifying, if he hadn't done that nonsense. Lando's qualifying time was 1:16.260 in Q3.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 11:56I've been thinking that maybe it is because their car specs are not the same because Norris got the upgrade (in Austin wing, now floor). I seem to remember that Piastri usually struggles when Norris gets the upgrades. This "next week I get the upgrades so it will be better" is not first time I heard it.
Maybe he is not as good at getting the best setup of the car on his own so when Norris is on a different car spec it ends up being a bigger issue than on normal weekends where he can follow Norris lead on setup. I've seen that he is very often coached over the radio about where he can get extract more laptime, I am sure this is compared to Norris.
Maybe someone else remembers other times Piastri struggled and whether it correlates.
Andrea Stella said that Piastri will have the upgrades in Brazil so hopefully he bounces back.
I am trying to be objective, just thinking what it can be to make him so inconsistent. It may be that he is still inconsistent at this stage of his career or maybe that he doesn't set up the car as well when on other spec to Lando. I really don't know.LionsHeart wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 12:18Be objective. It's not about the updates. It's about Oscar's own mistakes. Oscar himself even admitted it after the race. His time in third practice was 1.16.492, right? He could have done it again in qualifying, if he hadn't done that nonsense. Lando's qualifying time was 1:16.260 in Q3.