2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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mwillems
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Ben1980 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:23
Venturiation wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:21
Lando is not championship material
It's a mad race in lots of rain.

A race he would likely have won without a red flag.
But Max is almost on rails. Lando just has driven poorly in these conditions.

I.live the guy, i don't want to see him leave, but he's not close to.team leader material.
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Szabi1112 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:30
Actually Verstappen really deserves it.
He definitely shows why he is a top class racer

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Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:29
I was expecting things to go badly this race to be honest. Just the recent precedents of wet races do not favor McLaren, but didn't expect it to go this badly. Huge flop all-around.

Forget the WDC, but not taking more points out of Ferrari here is laughable to be honest. Two Alpines on the podium and they are fighting each-other at 6th and 7th :lol"

But he still likely wins without the red flag.

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Forget this race and WDC. All bad today

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Man Lando, so many mistakes, no real pace, he has a good race craft, so I believe something is wrong with the setup or characteristics of the car.

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Maybe going for higher downforce was not the best call. The car is fast in the twisty bits but can't catch in any of the straights.

Still, it was a nice dream to think of WDC.

We need to seal WCC!

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mwillems wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:31
Ben1980 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:23
Venturiation wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:21
Lando is not championship material
It's a mad race in lots of rain.

A race he would likely have won without a red flag.
But Max is almost on rails. Lando just has driven poorly in these conditions.

I.live the guy, i don't want to see him leave, but he's not close to.team leader material.
Max has been great, but he was stuck behind Leclerc.

But, I don't think either driver has stood out.( but lando still wins without the red flag)

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After Piastri mistake where he dropped 4 seconds back he is now about 1 second faster than Norris. I think the car has plenty of pace but can't overtake due to high drag due to the wing.

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I think it should be clear they went too hard on downforce, there's pace to get close to cars, but no speed to overtake.

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Slahinki wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:39
I think it should be clear they went too hard on downforce, there's pace to get close to cars, but no speed to overtake.
Which is also why we sucked at all the restarts.

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Let's just focus on WCC.
WDC was never a realistic chance.

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Ben1980 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:36
mwillems wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:31
Ben1980 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:23


It's a mad race in lots of rain.

A race he would likely have won without a red flag.
But Max is almost on rails. Lando just has driven poorly in these conditions.

I.live the guy, i don't want to see him leave, but he's not close to.team leader material.
Max has been great, but he was stuck behind Leclerc.

But, I don't think either driver has stood out.( but lando still wins without the red flag)
Neither driver stood out? I cannot understand how anyone can't recognise the mastery of Maxs display and the absolute gap in class between the two drivers, it's that big here today
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mwillems wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:44
Ben1980 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:36
mwillems wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:31


But Max is almost on rails. Lando just has driven poorly in these conditions.

I.live the guy, i don't want to see him leave, but he's not close to.team leader material.
Max has been great, but he was stuck behind Leclerc.

But, I don't think either driver has stood out.( but lando still wins without the red flag)
Neither driver stood out? I cannot understand how anyone can't recognise the mastery of Maxs display and the absolute gap in class between the two drivers, it's that big here today
I was talking g about neither McLaren driver. Max has been the class apart.

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I don't disagree that Max drove masterfully today but still he would not be able to win without that Red Flag.
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Holm86 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:31
Venturiation wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:21
Lando is not championship material
Totally agree, he doesn't have the racecraft and is a terrible starter. When you're this bad at converting poles to wins, you're not made of the right stuff ...
Not necessarily. Leclerc doesn’t have a good pole conversion rate, but his cars have mostly been utter garbage in terms of race pace and tyre deg. Still I doubt anyone would consider him ”not championship material”.

I agree about Lando though. He clearly lacks the racecraft, even if he has admittedly been really unlucky in Sao Paulo.