Lando does though.
Now his title is over he has to absolutely show the world that he can play his part in the teams ambition to win the WCC.
The only really realistic title on offer since the summer break.
Lando does though.
Don't think you will find anyone that says Lando is better than Max. Max has been there done it and brought the title shirt. His car was consistently better out there from start to finish. He wouldn't have won without the red flag, but he was head and shoulders the stand out.venkyhere wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 21:44What about the red flag that put him in P17 (instead of a realistic P7/P8 ?). Luck goes around and comes around. Norris didn't bring his A game today. On fresh inters after 2nd restart, Verstappen was lapping 1.2 to 1.5 seconds faster than both McLarens. Don't say 'fresh engine advantage' because in the rain, without DRS, the capabilities of the car are almost levelled out. There is no way that the 1.2-1.5s is all coming from the car, in such a scenario. It's the driver. Accept the truth, Verstappen is a more 'polished' and more 'battle-hardened' driver than Norris. Norris has to sharpen himself and he surely will, he is very talented. But he needs such 'experiences' (not just driving technique wise, mental toughness wise) to sharpen himself. I am expecting a much sharper and a much more 'team-leader' type Norris in 2025.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 19:46I don't disagree that Max drove masterfully today but still he would not be able to win without that Red Flag.
It was bad luck after a poor roll of the dice. Team should have known that with a lot of cars on old inters in full wet weather conditions, there would be a strong chance of an incident, so ride it out because you won't lose much by staying out and being careful, but you might gain an awful lot.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 21:58Why McLaren and Mercedes gave up track position for new inters, I'll never know. This is what gave Max the win.
The WCC was the only title that was ever really possible this season unless Max had some catastrophic bad luck.
No, it was another big, big, execution error.mwillems wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 22:01It was bad luck after a poor roll of the dice. Team should have known that with a lot of cars on old inters in full wet weather conditions, there would be a strong chance of an incident, so ride it out because you won't lose much by staying out and being careful, but you might gain an awful lot.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 21:58Why McLaren and Mercedes gave up track position for new inters, I'll never know. This is what gave Max the win.
I agree, it was a poor roll of the dice. It was the way it benefitted Max that was bad luck that was invited from a bad gamble.basti313 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 22:25No, it was another big, big, execution error.mwillems wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 22:01It was bad luck after a poor roll of the dice. Team should have known that with a lot of cars on old inters in full wet weather conditions, there would be a strong chance of an incident, so ride it out because you won't lose much by staying out and being careful, but you might gain an awful lot.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 21:58Why McLaren and Mercedes gave up track position for new inters, I'll never know. This is what gave Max the win.
It was 100% clear, that they need to stay out or at least do something different than Russel when the VSC ended. Following Russel into the pits, into traffic was just a stupid descission.
You saw the car driving away, then it was 10sec VSC ending...together easily 15-20sec to send a "stay out".
I was actually astonished seeing Russel go into the pits...but with Norris, I just thought "wtf"...