2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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PapayaFan481 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:02
Where are you seeing that?

I'm trying to find it, but can't see it on any Insta posts...
these things are always on the FIA Decision's page: https://www.fia.com/documents/season/season-2024-2043

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Slahinki wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:09
FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:20
Everyone forgot the race.

There was a VSC because someone spun (maybe SAI), they had 10 second gap to P3 and it made sense to pit onto good tyres.

Then SAI moves so VSC ends just as they are entering so they lose more time than expected.

After that NOR is fast and catching VER seconds a lap but the rain is so heavy that it goes SC. Now NOR is P4 on new inters during heavy rain during SC. Pretty good position.

But then Colapinto crashes under safety car and it is a red flag. Very unlucky. But it was also very lucky to scrape by into Q2 and to get VER fall out due to Aston crashing. In the end luck kind of evened out.

Bigger issue is the inability to restart well or overtake.
This, but it was Hülkenberg being illegally assisted back on track by the marshals that ended the VSC at the wrong time.
That was not illegal. The marshals need to clean the track as fast as possible, and that was the fastest option. Can not be done better. Hulk then ends his race...all perfectly by the rules.
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Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
What Lando says here is one of the worst takes you can have after a day like this. I don't know who let him loose on the media pen without a PR person guiding him beforehand, because comments like this are embarrassing.

Max can be a bit of a prick with his tactics on-track at times, but credit where credit is due, the guy is always respectful of rival's performances. This reaction by Lando is that of a spoiled man-child and a bit of a sore loser as well.
Just take it on the chin and move on. The title was not lost today, there were many missed opportunities throughout the year and only one of them could be blamed on Max. The rest should be used for self-reflection.

When he says things like this, he is pretty much inviting all the toxic people to plaster him in social media. And honestly, it's tough to argue against them on this case.
I’d like to see a little more context to the question In another interview Lando said us Max started near them he probably would’ve lapped them. I didn’t like the interview when I heard it but wonder if it was taken out of context a little

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Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
What Lando says here is one of the worst takes you can have after a day like this. I don't know who let him loose on the media pen without a PR person guiding him beforehand, because comments like this are embarrassing.

Max can be a bit of a prick with his tactics on-track at times, but credit where credit is due, the guy is always respectful of rival's performances. This reaction by Lando is that of a spoiled man-child and a bit of a sore loser as well.
Just take it on the chin and move on. The title was not lost today, there were many missed opportunities throughout the year and only one of them could be blamed on Max. The rest should be used for self-reflection.

When he says things like this, he is pretty much inviting all the toxic people to plaster him in social media. And honestly, it's tough to argue against them on this case.
I’d like to see a little more context to the question In another interview Lando said us Max started near them he probably would’ve lapped them. I didn’t like the interview when I heard it but wonder if it was taken out of context a little

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PapayaFan481 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:02
Where are you seeing that?

I'm trying to find it, but can't see it on any Insta posts...
Forget insta….

https://www.fia.com/documents/champions ... -2024-2043
Just a fan's point of view

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Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
What Lando says here is one of the worst takes you can have after a day like this. I don't know who let him loose on the media pen without a PR person guiding him beforehand, because comments like this are embarrassing.
I think you are reading too much into it. I think Lando shouldn't have said that for sure, especially after the lost places at each restart today, but he's just talking about winning the gamble of the red flag and he is right on that imho. Max went from a likely last place to change tires after SC, to a 2nd place in restart. It didn't take any skill and took instead Colapinto crashing for a red flag.

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Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
What Lando says here is one of the worst takes you can have after a day like this. I don't know who let him loose on the media pen without a PR person guiding him beforehand, because comments like this are embarrassing.

Max can be a bit of a prick with his tactics on-track at times, but credit where credit is due, the guy is always respectful of rival's performances. This reaction by Lando is that of a spoiled man-child and a bit of a sore loser as well.
Just take it on the chin and move on. The title was not lost today, there were many missed opportunities throughout the year and only one of them could be blamed on Max. The rest should be used for self-reflection.

When he says things like this, he is pretty much inviting all the toxic people to plaster him in social media. And honestly, it's tough to argue against them on this case.
I saw this.
Don’t think he’s saying Max isn’t talented and just lucky he means there is no talent in guessing or ‘knowing’ when a red flag will be it just all luck.

Also the guy is disappointed. He’s never going to please everyone with how he reacts.
Just a fan's point of view

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Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
What Lando says here is one of the worst takes you can have after a day like this. I don't know who let him loose on the media pen without a PR person guiding him beforehand, because comments like this are embarrassing.

Max can be a bit of a prick with his tactics on-track at times, but credit where credit is due, the guy is always respectful of rival's performances. This reaction by Lando is that of a spoiled man-child and a bit of a sore loser as well.
Just take it on the chin and move on. The title was not lost today, there were many missed opportunities throughout the year and only one of them could be blamed on Max. The rest should be used for self-reflection.

When he says things like this, he is pretty much inviting all the toxic people to plaster him in social media. And honestly, it's tough to argue against them on this case.
There's probably a sensible halfway house, but between stopping giving a crap what people think and saying he's not good enough, I prefer today's take.

Think it was more denial over his own mistakes than casting aspersions on Max.
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 21:50
Good thing out of this weekend is that we increased the distance from Ferrari from 29 to 36 points.
Norris might still have to eat another penalty for the start procedure infringements. I'd be surprised it it stays at 36.

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It just comes out a bit wrong. He is not wrong, but if he would have said something like 'They got it right, we called it wrong, sometimes you need a bit of luck" he would have said exactly the same, but it would have sounded a whole lot better.

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Emag I don't think Lando said anything wrong here. Max drove masterfully here and that is tue but the Red Flag saved him as under normal circumstances he would have been a lot of places behind after his pit stop having to deal with the dirty air of many cars needing to pass them and as we saw from the Ferrari of Leclerc he wouldn't be able to. Also I don't want to play devil's advocate but I will. Back at Miami Lando Norris beat Max Verstappen on a 20 lap battle and gaped him by 15 seconds masterfully yet the hypocrites in the media screamed luck back then due to exploiting a SC. I find it unfair these same people treating the same situation differently now. It is unfair for Lando Norris.
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bananapeel23 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:37
Darth-Piekus wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 21:50
Good thing out of this weekend is that we increased the distance from Ferrari from 29 to 36 points.
Norris might still have to eat another penalty for the start procedure infringements. I'd be surprised it it stays at 36.
Whatever penalty he gets, both VCARB cars are also going to get, so at worst he drops behind Oscar.

I wonder whether, given there was no competitive advantage gained, maybe it might be a fine, rather than a time penalty.
If I come across as blunt, I apologise, it's my ASD. Sometimes, like an F1 car aqua-planing, it gets out of my control.

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Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
[ there were many missed opportunities throughout the year and only one of them could be blamed on Max.
Genuinely curious, which one?

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PapayaFan481 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:42
bananapeel23 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:37
Darth-Piekus wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 21:50
Good thing out of this weekend is that we increased the distance from Ferrari from 29 to 36 points.
Norris might still have to eat another penalty for the start procedure infringements. I'd be surprised it it stays at 36.
Whatever penalty he gets, both VCARB cars are also going to get, so at worst he drops behind Oscar.

I wonder whether, given there was no competitive advantage gained, maybe it might be a fine, rather than a time penalty.
Yeah I'm excited to see what it ends up being. I think a 10 second penalty is most likely, but it could realistically be anything from a fine to a full blown DQ. I think the fact that people followed him will be considered mitigating, but if he did it alone I genuinely believe an outright DQ would have been the penalty.

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avantman wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:44
Emag wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
[ there were many missed opportunities throughout the year and only one of them could be blamed on Max.
Genuinely curious, which one?
Probably Austria?