2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Red Bull, meanwhile, scored 32 points from the Sprint weekend – 31 of them earned by Verstappen, after Perez failed to score in the Sao Paulo Grand Prix
I would just retire if I was Perez, at this point. This is ludicrous.

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We can take the WDC in Vegas, if Lando fails to outscore Max by 12 points over the whole weekend.

64points needed to win now for Lando

So 2 races left with a win and FL is 52points. So if Max can keep Lando from scoring more, hes WDC.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 00:54
We can take the WDC in Vegas, if Lando fails to outscore Max by 12 points over the whole weekend.

64points needed to win now for Lando

So 2 races left with a win and FL is 52points. So if Max can keep Lando from scoring more, hes WDC.
I think he’ll do in Vegas which would be a glitzy place to do it- a great place to celebrate it after too.
There is no way Lando will out score him by 12 points. It’s more likely that Verstappen will out score Lando
Just a fan's point of view

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 00:54
We can take the WDC in Vegas, if Lando fails to outscore Max by 12 points over the whole weekend.

64points needed to win now for Lando

So 2 races left with a win and FL is 52points. So if Max can keep Lando from scoring more, hes WDC.
Qatar has the sprint (+8 points). To win in Vegas, Max has not to lose more than 2 points from Lando.

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Sergej wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:14
chrisc90 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 00:54
We can take the WDC in Vegas, if Lando fails to outscore Max by 12 points over the whole weekend.

64points needed to win now for Lando

So 2 races left with a win and FL is 52points. So if Max can keep Lando from scoring more, hes WDC.
Qatar has the sprint (+8 points). To win in Vegas, Max has not to lose more than 2 points from Lando.
Care to explain a bit more?

Surely 12 points or more dropped to lando would leave it open, through both the sprint and the race (the weekend on whole)

Edit: ahh yeah, got the wrong sprint weekend.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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The WDC has been sewn up for a while tbh- Max secured it with some great second places and podiums even when McLaren had the marginally faster package.

Was always a mega hill to climb for Lando and it’s only the media and Liberty hyping this as a title battle.

Max for me has shown he’s got the edge and deserves the title- Lando will learn a lot from his year at the sharp end this year and next season should be a cracker!

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So going off that then:

26 points in vegas
26 points +8 points in qatar 34total
26 points in Dubai


34 + 26 points from last 2 races is 60 points.

64 needed to win for lando.

So if Max scores 4 more points than Lando in Vegas, Lando would need to win the last 2 races on the calander without max scoring.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Lando has to outscore Max by 3 points or more in LV to keep the WDC alive. Anything less and Max wins.

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Btw Horner should start applying pressure to FIA to don't make Herbert steward ever again.

Not because of his decisions, but how he present himself in the media. If FIA is so aware about language and stuff like that, they should be also sensitive about these kind of issues.
It is unacceptable for a steward to talk like that, and FIA should make it very clear that there is no place for bias. The very least they should present a statement about Herbert.

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Even as a Ferrari fan who is far from a Max/Red Bull fan, I'm really made up for you guys,
Mostly because you finally put an end to the media and McLaren's hopes, not yet mathematically but I think it's safe to say it might as well be now. Not sure what it is exactly but I've grown to seriously dislike McLaren over the past few months!

Well done Max and well done Red Bull =D>

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Thank you dia6olo, and many others. Really appreciated. What a day, a rollercoaster. I will remember this one forever.

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:23
So going off that then:

26 points in vegas
26 points +8 points in qatar 34total
26 points in Dubai


34 + 26 points from last 2 races is 60 points.

64 needed to win for lando.

So if Max scores 4 more points than Lando in Vegas, Lando would need to win the last 2 races on the calander without max scoring.
Max’s gap is 62, so if he finishes above anywhere he will win, the point swing needs to go 3 points in Norris’s favour to still be in a chance to win, and then after that he needs max to essentially be p8-p9 while he takes the win and FL.

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Max was the only driver jumping the curb at Juncao. :wtf:

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A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 04:58
Max was the only driver jumping the curb at Juncao. :wtf:

https://i.postimg.cc/DZGZML6S/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/fW3F15Y2/image.png
That's race intelligence (and of course mega bravery&skill to take so much kerb in the wet). A good launch from T12 means proper speed buildup for T1 overtake. This is why he got close enough to execute passes in T1 without DRS. He struggled to overtake LeClerc, because given similar DF levels, the Ferrari is simply much more aero-efficient and has greater straightline speed.

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Vettel165 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:16
https://postimages.org/
isn't the first point factually incorrect ? Hamilton won from P20 in 2021.

TNTHead wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:50
I wonder whether they have found something setup wise.
They found 'balance'. The good thing Redbull did on this weekend was to 'not touch the car' after showing good pace in the sprint. I think that helped immensely.
But even then, I don't think the car is going to be anywhere near Ferrari/McLaren in LasVegas where aero-efficiency (drag penalty per unit of downforce) is going to be key. The RB20 is draggier than them.
As AR3-GP posted above, the real reason Max got close enough into T1 without DRS, was really his drive out of T12, it wasn't because the RB20 was particularly good in a straight line.