Anyway, Vegas, despite being cold, it's gonna be on the Monza package so i'm a little optimistic for that one.
And Mclaren may have been pegged a back by a certain degree from the wing changes.
It's beating a dead horse at this point, one time Leclerc had a good Ferrari and the race was wet was Monaco 22 where he was cruising and opened up a 10s gap to Max in something like 15 lapsdialtone wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 01:26For those that think LEC isn’t good in the rain:
"here i just got stuck cause charles is actually quite decent" - Max
https://i.imgur.com/cso0IvF.gifv
I think everyone is always talking to Max. Regardless, it all depends on how 2025 and 2026 unfold between Leclerc and Hamilton. In case Leclerc outperforms Hamilton like he did with Vettel, Leclerc deserves to be #1 as long as he decides to stay with Ferrari and it would be bad to bring another rooster in just to ensure you have 2 best drivers. I suspect both FIA and FOM would make a huge push against such a move, because they want to have 4-5 competitive teams with top-tier driver in each one of them.jumpingfish wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 07:53With Red Bull likely to be weaker in 2026 after the switch to new engines and Newey leaving, Max will certainly be looking elsewhere. Lewis will be there in 2025 and 2026, so Vasseur should already be talking to Max about a potential move for 2027, unless he moves to Aston in 2026 instead of Alonso or a gravel driver. Ferrari have already missed out on Newey, so they shouldn't throw away the opportunity to sign at least one of the best drivers. Together with Leclerc they would have been an unbeatable pair on the grid.
Ferrari don't need to worry about what the FIA and FOM want in terms of the teams lineup. Vasseur needs to secure the best combination for 2027 (as good as Lewis is, he will eventually retire) and tie Verstappen's hands with a pre-contract before he goes to a competitor and strengthens them.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 12:18
I think everyone is always talking to Max. Regardless, it all depends on how 2025 and 2026 unfold between Leclerc and Hamilton. In case Leclerc outperforms Hamilton like he did with Vettel, Leclerc deserves to be #1 as long as he decides to stay with Ferrari and it would be bad to bring another rooster in just to ensure you have 2 best drivers. I suspect both FIA and FOM would make a huge push against such a move, because they want to have 4-5 competitive teams with top-tier driver in each one of them.
In case it's about equal between Leclerc and Hamilton or Hamilton outperforms him, they should bring Max in at all costs
Vasseur has shown to be very competent and very devoted to his job. He's also one of the most experienced leaders on the grid today, with many close relationships all over the grid. Whatever he feels is the best course of action to improve the team, probably is the best move really. If Max continues to antagonise FIA, British stewards and others, it may be best to keep him away from Ferrari after Hamilton and promote Bearman or bring in Lando or Russell. There were too many seasons of anti-ferrari bias in FIA in the last 15 years and this is something that cost them multiple titles.jumpingfish wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 13:00Ferrari don't need to worry about what the FIA and FOM want in terms of the teams lineup. Vasseur needs to secure the best combination for 2027 (as good as Lewis is, he will eventually retire) and tie Verstappen's hands with a pre-contract before he goes to a competitor and strengthens them.
Fred also needs to start banging his fists on the table and making a ferocious face when he needs to defend the team's interests. So that we don't have a repeat of 2018, when any mangy street dog could know what's going on inside a Ferrari engine or battery. There haven't been many leaks from Maranello about the progress of the PU for 2026, hopefully it will stay that way. I suppose they've come up with the idea of testing the battery and MGU-K designs in the F80 that can be implemented in a little over a year.
Exactly this.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 12:18it all depends on how 2025 and 2026 unfold between Leclerc and Hamilton. In case Leclerc outperforms Hamilton like he did with Vettel, Leclerc deserves to be #1 as long as he decides to stay with Ferrari and it would be bad to bring another rooster in just to ensure you have 2 best drivers. I suspect both FIA and FOM would make a huge push against such a move, because they want to have 4-5 competitive teams with top-tier driver in each one of them.
In case it's about equal between Leclerc and Hamilton or Hamilton outperforms him, they should bring Max in at all costs
Vasseur's philosophy seems to be "just stay out of it," at least in terms of public comments.
No driver has outperformed Vettel and Sainz like Leclerc did despite an insane amount of points lost for reasons outside his control (mainly Ferrari incompetence).Sidewinder wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 14:18Exactly this.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 12:18it all depends on how 2025 and 2026 unfold between Leclerc and Hamilton. In case Leclerc outperforms Hamilton like he did with Vettel, Leclerc deserves to be #1 as long as he decides to stay with Ferrari and it would be bad to bring another rooster in just to ensure you have 2 best drivers. I suspect both FIA and FOM would make a huge push against such a move, because they want to have 4-5 competitive teams with top-tier driver in each one of them.
In case it's about equal between Leclerc and Hamilton or Hamilton outperforms him, they should bring Max in at all costs
To what end? Restart mess with Norris and Russell isn't worthy of DSQ or any kind of sporting penalty, especially since many other drivers made the same procedural error. As for Russell and Hamilton tyre pressure change after aborted start, they probably argued their case well enough and blamed the mess on restart grid. That's a thing between FIA and the team, third parties are not involved. Appealing that decision would require some substantial new evidence or previous precedent and would likely end up being dismissed in any case. All that effort for 2 more points for Ferrari and 4 more points for McLaren?
I thought Serra joined as TD, is Hamilton taking that place too?Formula 1 fan 1996 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 13:38Is it good decision for Hamilton to drive for Ferrari in 2025, considering Mercedes' problems with car in 2024??
Oh no, Bearman or Norris are not on Verstappen's level at the moment, even taking into account his stubbornness, he will bring more points in one rainy weekend than these two put together.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 13:23
Vasseur has shown to be very competent and very devoted to his job. He's also one of the most experienced leaders on the grid today, with many close relationships all over the grid. Whatever he feels is the best course of action to improve the team, probably is the best move really. If Max continues to antagonise FIA, British stewards and others, it may be best to keep him away from Ferrari after Hamilton and promote Bearman or bring in Lando or Russell. There were too many seasons of anti-ferrari bias in FIA in the last 15 years and this is something that cost them multiple titles.
I think that while those are fair points, reality is that had Max not come through the field both those two incidents would have been penalized far heavier or there would have been a very big stink kicked up, they were not penalized only because it made no real difference to Max and Lando's standing.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 14:52To what end? Restart mess with Norris and Russell isn't worthy of DSQ or any kind of sporting penalty, especially since many other drivers made the same procedural error. As for Russell and Hamilton tyre pressure change after aborted start, they probably argued their case well enough and blamed the mess on restart grid. That's a thing between FIA and the team, third parties are not involved. Appealing that decision would require some substantial new evidence or previous precedent and would likely end up being dismissed in any case. All that effort for 2 more points for Ferrari and 4 more points for McLaren?