2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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napoleon1981
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Sevach wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 20:09
Sergej wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 19:44
autosport was not at the press conference :mrgreen:
To get a 10 you need to change your passport lol.
I somewhat agree with the less then perfect score. The race was an absolute masterclass, but mistakes were made in the qualy and sprint race. Anyway it shows how useless these scores are.

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Sevach wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 20:09
Sergej wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 19:44
autosport was not at the press conference :mrgreen:
To get a 10 you need to change your passport lol.
The germans rate him more according to logic: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... en-norris/

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Sergej wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 19:44
autosport was not at the press conference :mrgreen:
I think they dock a point for not having the union jack on your passport.

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I agree with a 9 personally. Not a flawless weekend overall (see the sprint for instance) but the race is one we'll all remember for a while

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I don't remember? What was the mistake in sprint?
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.

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Not that I care a bit about autosport scores (after yesterday's race we Max supporters have a lot more to enjoy than a score in autosport), but just to add a bit of a context: they rated 10 Leclerc for a non-race in Monaco and Sainz for inheriting a win from a Red Bull mechanic who forgot how to assemble a brake

for yesterday they gave 9 to a bunch of drivers, not sure they all did what Max showed but anyway, it doesn't change the greatness of the performance we witnessed

Max Verstappen – 9
Esteban Ocon – 9
Pierre Gasly – 9
George Russell – 9
Charles Leclerc – 9
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Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:20
I don't remember? What was the mistake in sprint?
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.
I assume the sprint mistake was the VSC delta time breach, or whatever they call it, that lead to a five second penalty.

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Yet they call it GP ratings and not weekend ratings. The GP rating cannot be less then a 10.

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Standard weekend in the fastest car with little to no competition, 10. Generational wet drive from the back of the grid under maximum championship pressure, 9. Kind of a useless rating system if it doesn't acknowledge those special drives we will remember for decades but rather just focuses on zero complication races we all forget after a few years.

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Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:20
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.
What happened in quali to deserve a nine?

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Juzh wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 22:12
Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:20
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.
What happened in quali to deserve a nine?
He was too slow and so did not make it through. Whenever the red flag was thrown, Max was never making it through as he was already in the drop zone and there was not enough time left to have been able to do an out lap before the end of the session.
If I come across as blunt, I apologise, it's my ASD. Sometimes, like an F1 car aqua-planing, it gets out of my control.

rbirules
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PapayaFan481 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 23:00
Juzh wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 22:12
Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:20
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.
What happened in quali to deserve a nine?
He was too slow and so did not make it through. Whenever the red flag was thrown, Max was never making it through as he was already in the drop zone and there was not enough time left to have been able to do an out lap before the end of the session.
From what somebody said back on page 454, Ocon overtook Max just before he was going to start his push lap. He then aborted that lap and then the red flag came out on his next attempt. Seems Max never got to set a flying lap in Q2.

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rbirules wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:40
Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:20
I don't remember? What was the mistake in sprint?
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.
I assume the sprint mistake was the VSC delta time breach, or whatever they call it, that lead to a five second penalty.
Ah, that.
I always looked to that as calculated risk, rather than a mistake.
It fell on the wrong side this time.

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Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:20
I don't remember? What was the mistake in sprint?
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.
They would have gotten away with the 9 score had they not updated Lewis score from 2 to 4. Now it is just blatantly obvious it is a passport reason.

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Juzh wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 22:12
Paa wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 21:20
I also agree with 9 btw, because of qualy.
What happened in quali to deserve a nine?
I'm not sure as I only watched the broadcast and they only showed him for some odd seconds. From what I've seen from the minimap, he was busy trying to overtake people on track on his outlap, and then started his first flying lap basically fighting with other drivers in close proximity. He should have just chilled on his outlap, leave some distance and put in a timed lap. It was not even Q3. All he had to do is to post a decent lap to go through.

Point is, he was released from the pit ~4-5 minutes before the end and had 1 full timed lap before the yellows/reds. So he should bear at least some responsibility not setting a competitive time for the first round. It is simply a mistake to leave it for the last minute under such circumstances. (yes, it is mostly on the team to release him into traffic or at the wrong time, but they win and lose together or something).