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Eme46 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 00:07
Heads need to roll in the suspension / chassis group

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604gtir wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 06:37
Eme46 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 00:07
Heads need to roll in the suspension / chassis group
It's probably caused by some choices they had to make in a rush to fix the car.

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diffuser wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 12:58
604gtir wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 06:37
Eme46 wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 00:07
Heads need to roll in the suspension / chassis group
It's probably caused by some choices they had to make in a rush to fix the car.
I dont remember but, Alonso' used the Austin floor in the race right?

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Rikrikrik wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 13:31
diffuser wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 12:58
604gtir wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 06:37


Heads need to roll in the suspension / chassis group
It's probably caused by some choices they had to make in a rush to fix the car.
I dont remember but, Alonso' used the Austin floor in the race right?
No, it looks like the "Go to" floor. Which is a hybrid from Suzuka + Hungry. When we talk about "the floor", we're really talking about the fences. It's impossible to know if we actually have differences in the floor, if they're using different diffusers, different bibs or changes on the fins in the floor entry. We just don't have good enough pictures of all that.
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Nikosar wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 20:20
I don’t know if it was true that an insider few months ago wanted Fallows focusing on making the car easier to drive instead of keep reintroducing, reshaping, mixing upgrades…. every race the car is more difficult to drive.

I hope that they manage to give the drivers a car that it is easier to drive before making it fast. We are already on the far back of the grid so we have absolutely nothing to lose.
It's no secret that the upgrades delivered in Imola made the car hard to drive.

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Oh man just watching that hurt my spine!

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Looks like whoever suggested they ran Austin Floor is right. You can see it clearly here when Alonso get's out of the car at the end of the race in Brazil.

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diffuser wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:03
SSJ4 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:34
Alonso was using Austin floor from what I’ve seen on twitter. Makes sense why he was complaining about bouncing
He couldn't change floors. Would have had to start from pit lane.
Never underestimate die hard alonso fans on twitter

Shame we never know what could have been done if it wasn’t for qualy

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SSJ4 wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 19:06
diffuser wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:03
SSJ4 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:34
Alonso was using Austin floor from what I’ve seen on twitter. Makes sense why he was complaining about bouncing
He couldn't change floors. Would have had to start from pit lane.
Never underestimate die hard alonso fans on twitter

Shame we never know what could have been done if it wasn’t for qualy
Looks like he used Austin floor all weekend.

It didn't make sense to me that they didn't start from the back...which is what would have happened if they switched floors....Now I've gone back, I found some better pictures, that show they were using the Austin floor all weekend.

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SSJ4 wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 19:06
diffuser wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:03
SSJ4 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:34
Alonso was using Austin floor from what I’ve seen on twitter. Makes sense why he was complaining about bouncing
He couldn't change floors. Would have had to start from pit lane.
Never underestimate die hard alonso fans on twitter

Shame we never know what could have been done if it wasn’t for qualy
If he had taken pole, he would probably have won the race (not considering any possible wrong strategies). In these conditions he would have made it impossible for those behind to overtake. It can be deduced also from how Ocon had distanced Verstappen after the restart with the safety car.

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diffuser wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 19:22
SSJ4 wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 19:06
diffuser wrote:
04 Nov 2024, 01:03


He couldn't change floors. Would have had to start from pit lane.
Never underestimate die hard alonso fans on twitter

Shame we never know what could have been done if it wasn’t for qualy
Looks like he used Austin floor all weekend.

It didn't make sense to me that they didn't start from the back...which is what would have happened if they switched floors....Now I've gone back, I found some better pictures, that show they were using the Austin floor all weekend.
Many said he used the Suzuka floor during FP1, was that wrong then?

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Sherrinford wrote:
06 Nov 2024, 11:41
diffuser wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 19:22
SSJ4 wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 19:06


Never underestimate die hard alonso fans on twitter

Shame we never know what could have been done if it wasn’t for qualy
Looks like he used Austin floor all weekend.

It didn't make sense to me that they didn't start from the back...which is what would have happened if they switched floors....Now I've gone back, I found some better pictures, that show they were using the Austin floor all weekend.
Many said he used the Suzuka floor during FP1, was that wrong then?
Why does FP1 matter?

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Maybe, maybe the plan was to use the Suzuka floor and then after the crashing they had no spare parts. Or simply the data from FP1 were too bad and they picked the other floor.

Strange that they suffer from porpoising.

Previous GP they started with very low set-up and they damaged the floor. Now they run the car a little upper and they have more porpoising.

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Nikosar wrote:
06 Nov 2024, 14:40
Maybe, maybe the plan was to use the Suzuka floor and then after the crashing they had no spare parts. Or simply the data from FP1 were too bad and they picked the other floor.

Strange that they suffer from porpoising.

Previous GP they started with very low set-up and they damaged the floor. Now they run the car a little upper and they have more porpoising.
I thought they only used the Suzuka floor in FP1 but damaged it by running it too low?

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diffuser wrote:
05 Nov 2024, 19:22
Looks like he used Austin floor all weekend.
Disagree.

Just before the race, Aston Martin had changed the specification of the floor on the cars, returning to the one rejected in Austin.[...]

After the free practice sessions [note: Sprint was basically a second free practice session], due to the excessive bouncing and the conditions of the asphalt, in view of the sprint it was decided to take a step back, returning once again to the most used specification throughout the year as it was the one that guaranteed the best indications, namely the Suzuka surface, which generates less rebounds and guarantees more confidence to the drivers. However, the two accidents in qualifying on Sunday morning pushed Aston Martin to change the surface again on both cars, returning precisely to the Austin specification.

“After this morning, we had to go back to a less performing package on the car. So the race was a bit slower in terms of pace on our side and then we had a problem with the brakes,” Alonso said after the race.
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-al ... /10670802/
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