2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Seanspeed]

DC has always been a mediocre dirty driver. Nobody cares about his opinion, least of all anyone on the current grid.

A bit rich to dismiss someone as mediocre who has more career wins than your two current drivers combined

Gilles Villeneuve only had six wins in his career.

And DC is easily the worst driver in F1 history to attain 10+ wins. It's insane how utterly mediocre he was, getting outpaced by almost every teammate he ever had, over and over and over again, and simply got ultra lucky to find himself in a bunch of front running cars where he could occasionally pull off a win when the Mclaren was the class of the field that day and his teammate was out of luck.

[ScuderiaLeo]

I don't think there's any point in debating with that guy. Absolutely nobody who has followed F1 for 20+ years would list DC as an outstanding driver. Additionally, F1 drivers also get better every year; even "mediocre" drives in the current field would dominate older fields. This is due to better training and tighter competition when making your way up the ladder. It's pointless to compare a driver now to a driver from decades ago.

I'm very confident that when Leclerc retires a long time from now, he will have more wins than DC anyway.

[AR3-GP]

FWIW, David Coulthard used this metaphor to describe George Russell a few years ago.

But the Scottish ex-F1 driver turned broadcaster reckons Russell is in for an eye-opening year alongside Hamilton, as his lack of experience at being an F1 frontrunner will trip him up on occasion. "I also think George is in for an awakening," Coulthard said. "He's still a puppy and puppies occasionally pee on the carpet."

https://racingnews365.com/coulthard-on- ... the-carpet

So it is not strictly british bias (other than the coddling of #4 ).

[dialtone]

Using it twice he probably really feels like it’s a good metaphor he has or that people liked it the first time. He’s mid even as commentator…

[ScuderiaLeo]

FWIW, David Coulthard used this metaphor to describe George Russell a few years ago.

But the Scottish ex-F1 driver turned broadcaster reckons Russell is in for an eye-opening year alongside Hamilton, as his lack of experience at being an F1 frontrunner will trip him up on occasion. "I also think George is in for an awakening," Coulthard said. "He's still a puppy and puppies occasionally pee on the carpet."

https://racingnews365.com/coulthard-on- ... the-carpet

So it is not strictly british bias (other than the coddling of #4 ).

To be fair, I don't see Russell being on the receiving end of "British bias" much. Hell, Russell barely even gets love from Mercedes' own "fans" despite driving excellently this season.

I digress however. Onto something actually related to Ferrari, I almost can't believe Leclerc had 6 top 5 finishes with the SF1000. That car was utter dogshit.



It also shows, once again, how great the team has been this season. While the improvement of the SF-23 to SF-24 wasn't quite at the level of McLaren, it's been a huge jump. Honestly... I'm very excited for this season to be over so we can see the SF-25!!

[deadhead]

2019 was a decent car eh

[napoleon1981]

2019 was a decent car eh

It certainly had an engine lmao.

[yooogurt]

2019 was a decent car eh

only in the second half of the season, after upgrades.

[Vanja #66]

Antonio Fuoco prepares for Abu Dhabi FP1 in F1-75 at Fiorano

https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-antoni ... t-fiorano/

As Bearman is no longer considered rookie with 3 races this year, Ferrari needs another driver to test in FP1. Afterwards, there will also be a dilemma who to put in the car for post-season Young Driver Test

[Cs98]

DC has always been a mediocre dirty driver. Nobody cares about his opinion, least of all anyone on the current grid.

A bit rich to dismiss someone as mediocre who has more career wins than your two current drivers combined

Gilles Villeneuve only had six wins in his career.

And DC is easily the worst driver in F1 history to attain 10+ wins. It's insane how utterly mediocre he was, getting outpaced by almost every teammate he ever had, over and over and over again, and simply got ultra lucky to find himself in a bunch of front running cars where he could occasionally pull off a win when the Mclaren was the class of the field that day and his teammate was out of luck.

Gilles only drove like 60 GP.

DC beat Hakkinen twice, beat Kimi, beat Webber. He's not an all time great but far from mediocre. If we want to brand his career as mediocre we will have to judge someone like Charles similarly, at least judging by what he's done so far. I don't think that's fair.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Antonio Fuoco prepares for Abu Dhabi FP1 in F1-75 at Fiorano

https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-antoni ... t-fiorano/

As Bearman is no longer considered rookie with 3 races this year, Ferrari needs another driver to test in FP1. Afterwards, there will also be a dilemma who to put in the car for post-season Young Driver Test

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... f1-75.webp

Good choice! Fuoco is an excellent driver, one of the best from Ferrari's WEC crew this season. Happy to see him getting a chance in an F1 car.

I do find it funny that a Le Mans winner could be considered a rookie

[Seanspeed]

A bit rich to dismiss someone as mediocre who has more career wins than your two current drivers combined

Gilles Villeneuve only had six wins in his career.

And DC is easily the worst driver in F1 history to attain 10+ wins. It's insane how utterly mediocre he was, getting outpaced by almost every teammate he ever had, over and over and over again, and simply got ultra lucky to find himself in a bunch of front running cars where he could occasionally pull off a win when the Mclaren was the class of the field that day and his teammate was out of luck.

Gilles only drove like 60 GP.

DC beat Hakkinen twice, beat Kimi, beat Webber. He's not an all time great but far from mediocre. If we want to brand his career as mediocre we will have to judge someone like Charles similarly, at least judging by what he's done so far. I don't think that's fair.

DC never convincingly beat any of those if you were really watching, though. He was slower than all of them, basically every season, and only scored more on the odd occasion largely through better luck.

And no, I would not judge Charles similarly because I dont rank drivers based on looking at stats that even somebody who has never watched F1 before could gleam from a couple Wikipedia pages.

[Fakepivot]

What you guys think? I don't think Ferrari's highspeed is that bad.

[Vanja #66]

Looks like it's only a relative comparison between 3 cars, so a bit misleading illustration but overall I agree with relative strength conclusions. Downforce is a bit more complex subject, because with these cars it also very much depends on cornering speeds and ride heights, so I'd rather stick with cornering strenghts instead. Also, if there's tyre management, there should also be tyre warmup and this is where RB>McLaren>Ferrari

[AR3-GP]

It's written by that Formula Data Analysis guy...

Red Bull have 2 squares of top speed and 3 squares of downforce and were given 3 squares of aero efficiency.
Ferrari have 3 squares of top speed but only 2 squares of downforce, but were also given 3 squares of aero efficiency.

Aero efficiency is the ratio of downforce to top speed. So how can 2 squares of top speed and 3 squares of downforce give the same aero efficiency as 3 squares of top speed and 2 squares of downforce? It's logically inconsistent...

Mclaren also exhibited tire management that was just as good as Ferrari (Leclerc and Norris, not Sainz and Piastri). Why only 2 squares for them?