2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 13:55
Ferrari were supposed to test their 2025 floor this weekend. I wonder if they still will.
If it was designed around said loophole there is no point in running it unfortunately

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deadhead wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 14:35
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 13:55
Ferrari were supposed to test their 2025 floor this weekend. I wonder if they still will.
If it was designed around said loophole there is no point in running it unfortunately
The point would be to make sure the correlation and the general heading are good. They can always make changes afterwards. The important thing is to confirm that their idea is working and that the numbers they see in the wind tunnel correlate with the real-life numbers seen on the track.

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To answer my own question, Sainz will be using the experimental floor and only for FP. It is purely for testing and not performance.

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Some more details about the experimental floor. https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-guarda- ... las-vegas/

Following the summer break, Ferrari upgraded its wind tunnel facilities. The upgrade specifically involved the belt system in the wind tunnel, expanding the surface where the model is placed and subjected to the powerful air currents that simulate the flow encountered on the track. McLaren, in this regard, is significantly advanced with a wider belt that allows for the study of the car in the tunnel at important yaw angles, offering a broader range of analysis. However, Ferrari is not standing still and has equipped itself accordingly.

These upgrades require the temporary suspension of wind tunnel operations. Ferrari chose to halt its usage once the latest developments—later seen at Monza and Singapore—were completed. After resuming tunnel activity, the focus shifted primarily to the 2025 car and, specifically, to this experimental floor that will debut in Las Vegas. Only one version of this floor has been brought to the United States, mounted on Carlos Sainz's car. The objective is not to seek performance or specific aerodynamic gains but to verify that the changes observed in the wind tunnel translate to the track as they appeared in the virtual environment.

The new floor is easily identifiable due to its radically different structure in the area of the floor edges, the open slot in front of the rear wheels, and a distinct design in the diffuser ramp. It is a vastly different element from the floor that Charles Leclerc will concurrently use, which is exclusively focused on optimizing performance for the Las Vegas Grand Prix.

The features of this new floor represent an initial iteration of a design intended for the 2025 car but in a very rudimentary form. In Maranello, a different floor is already being tested in the wind tunnel, even as Ferrari trials this one in Las Vegas. The objective is not to assess its performance impact but to analyze whether the chosen development path is correct and ensure that wind tunnel data corresponds to real-world performance—an aspect that has often challenged F1 teams working with ground-effect cars.
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din't watch fp1 but a sec behind mercs, shocking...

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Fakepivot wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 06:11
din't watch fp1 but a sec behind mercs, shocking...
Don't worry things looked good for Leclerc despite running much more wing than others

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they were not running monza wing?

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Fakepivot wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 06:34
they were not running monza wing?
Spa wing for fp1

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22 Nov 2024, 04:27
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Next year is going to be expensive for fans of both Lego and F1!!
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That extra prep lap they are doing on the softs is going to cost laptime on the push lap but I guess that's the best compromise they can come up with

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Having the new engine, Sainz is able to run his PU on higher levels in both sessions. On soft laps, Leclerc lost at least 2.5 tenths to Sainz on straights (making both laps pretty much the same basically) while on the race sim laps on Mediums Leclerc typically lost 3-5 tenths from lap to lap, but every lap. I don't think any driver showed their full PU potential yet.

Both, obviously, losing time to Merc in corners, unable to get the tyres in the window for now. This will continue to be an issue all the way into Q3, though the track always comes to those running the least amount of aero, especially street tracks
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Nothing new so far, like in the same hot Monza, the race pace is good but there are problems on the fast lap.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 10:04
Having the new engine, Sainz is able to run his PU on higher levels in both sessions. On soft laps, Leclerc lost at least 2.5 tenths to Sainz on straights (making both laps pretty much the same basically) while on the race sim laps on Mediums Leclerc typically lost 3-5 tenths from lap to lap, but every lap. I don't think any driver showed their full PU potential yet.
why would Sainz run a race engine on Friday? Unlike Leclerc, he still has plenty of old stuff left.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 10:04
Having the new engine, Sainz is able to run his PU on higher levels in both sessions. On soft laps, Leclerc lost at least 2.5 tenths to Sainz on straights (making both laps pretty much the same basically) while on the race sim laps on Mediums Leclerc typically lost 3-5 tenths from lap to lap, but every lap. I don't think any driver showed their full PU potential yet.

Both, obviously, losing time to Merc in corners, unable to get the tyres in the window for now. This will continue to be an issue all the way into Q3, though the track always comes to those running the least amount of aero, especially street tracks
Sainz had a pretty hefty tow into turn 14 on his fast lap. 2 tenths gained.

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