2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
User avatar
mwillems
44
Joined: 04 Sep 2016, 22:11

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

Thanks.

I can't tell from that if there's obvious signs of cruising. But I'd say that on past history that this is not unfamiliar territory for Red Bull who have gone on to be competitive. Personally I don't see any reason that they won't be fast in Q, yet. But I also don't see evidence they will be fast, I just won't rule them out because I just can't any evidence of their pace.
I'm not taking advice from a cartoon dog

-Bandit

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

yeah, sure, I agree. Red Bull often is pretty slow on Friday, and able to improve a lot by Qualifying. To me it just felt like that the gap is quite a bit bigger than usual.

Macklaren
Macklaren
12
Joined: 23 Feb 2014, 16:26

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

mwillems wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 21:10
Thanks.

Personally I don't see any reason that they won't be fast in Q, yet.
you dont think RBR saying they have brought the wrong wing to the race is evidence that something is wrong?

Joel709
Joel709
0
Joined: 27 Jun 2023, 17:57

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

Macklaren wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 21:26
mwillems wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 21:10
Thanks.

Personally I don't see any reason that they won't be fast in Q, yet.
you dont think RBR saying they have brought the wrong wing to the race is evidence that something is wrong?
They didn’t bring the wrong wing, they never designed one for ultra low downforce

User avatar
mwillems
44
Joined: 04 Sep 2016, 22:11

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

Macklaren wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 21:26
mwillems wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 21:10
Thanks.

Personally I don't see any reason that they won't be fast in Q, yet.
you dont think RBR saying they have brought the wrong wing to the race is evidence that something is wrong?
I'm just saying there's no evidence yet of their pace.
I'm not taking advice from a cartoon dog

-Bandit

Ben1980
Ben1980
1
Joined: 19 Jun 2022, 10:11

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

The Red Bull ( of Max) will be fine, top 4 in all likelihood. It's happened regularly this year.

FittingMechanics
FittingMechanics
16
Joined: 19 Feb 2019, 12:10

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

About Max and his FP2 soft lap. It was shown during the broadcast and he seemed to go wide over the track limits on his first lap (at the exit of some corner). Soon after that the commentators were saying that Verstappen was taking another lap to warm up the tires (maybe he aborted because he was over track limits?). Then he started his second lap but it was red flagged.

I do think VER will be fine. The whole story about "they packed the wrong wing" seems so ridiculous it's hard to take it seriously.

But we have to remember that VER finished P6 in Monza with the same wing. What a lost opportunity that Brazil was.

User avatar
BMMR61
0
Joined: 25 May 2021, 13:02
Location: Australia.

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

The issue of "why Red Bull didn't bring a low df rear wing to Vegas".
https://racingnews365.com/why-red-bull- ... -las-vegas

As mentioned before, they haven't developed one. Why? Plenty of speculation but, between Checo's destructive ways costing millions in rebuilds (and probably new chassis), and the amount of wasted development that didn't address fundamental problems with the RB20, they've run out of cost cap, in my opinion. Nothing strange about that, in fact it's normal for resources to be diverted to next year's car before November. McLaren on the other hand appear to still have some final tricks, and the WCC motivation, for the last three weekends.

Why should we worry about Max and Red Bull anyway? Unless he gets between McLaren and any winning car in red, he's irrelevant unless McLaren really drop the ball.

User avatar
BMMR61
0
Joined: 25 May 2021, 13:02
Location: Australia.

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

On the issue of whether Red Bull, and particularly Max are genuinely not competitive at Vegas, it's too early to start calling the order of performance, we should know better than that! Red Bull have a pretty decent simulator team back at M-K that get the pleasure of all nighters when the s*#! hits the fan in practice! :D

Even Marko making these statements of doom don't fool me into thinking they won't look much better on Sunday (Saturday).
https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verst ... -marko-eye

billamend
billamend
15
Joined: 02 Sep 2019, 22:45

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post


Z-one
Z-one
8
Joined: 11 May 2023, 10:30

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

Monza Spec Rearwing confirm
The mankind’s courage and resolution will be witnessed and remembered by stars.

User avatar
BMMR61
0
Joined: 25 May 2021, 13:02
Location: Australia.

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

Quiet time on the forum given qualifying is only a few hours away, must be the timezone and the demographics......

The track evolution at Vegas is TERRIFYING! There will be high profile casualties in Q1 and Q2 surely. It's really a shame that F1 visits Las Vegas in late November with the single figure temperatures. Last time I walked the strip late at night was in early September and it was around 20C at midnight. Surprising to me is the limited amount of running in FP3, everyone seemed to be waiting for everyone else to clean up the track. I'm nervous even though there are good signs of pace from both our drivers, because the qualifying is held later at night with low track temperature a problem.

User avatar
mwillems
44
Joined: 04 Sep 2016, 22:11

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post



If you change x.com to twitter.com then the forum software will show the image.

No idea why this hasn't been fixed yet.
I'm not taking advice from a cartoon dog

-Bandit

User avatar
mwillems
44
Joined: 04 Sep 2016, 22:11

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

Well the kids did wake me at 5.15 am UK time, so it's a good job we look strong in Q1 so far.

Mercs and Max are close behind but hopefully we can keep this performance up.

As I say that, Ferrari get in the mix too.

Tight at the top, slipstream and track evolution are masking some true levels of performance
I'm not taking advice from a cartoon dog

-Bandit

FittingMechanics
FittingMechanics
16
Joined: 19 Feb 2019, 12:10

Re: 2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

Post

The car looks fast in Q1, whenever they made their laps they had 2-3 tenths on the field but would get overtaken with track evolution.

Hopefully we get good Q3 result compared to Ferrari.