2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[diffuser]

We don’t know what is the issue, but we also know that this current - bad - rules makes car very sensitive and difficult to setup or understand

I mean, with some little changes you can have big progress so let’s keep hope for 2025

Hope to do some podiums and fight with the top4

Im trying to have any hope about they will sit on the backyard at Newey's house for a tea and take some tips about make 2025 better. I cant believe they will not trying talk with Newey about, especially after the embarassing performance this year. yeah i know they cant because Newey is in his gardening, but, all of us know how this world works, and Lawrence Stroll knows make things

I think the car will have a good start to 2025. They've shown over the last 2 years that by gathering real time data on the current car or whatever else happens differently over the off season, they can make upgrades that work.

The problem is in season. I doudt we'll have upgrades to the 2025 car beyond July. Newey starts March 1st. First race is March 16th. He'll surely be around to ask questions before the first upgrade of the 2025 year.

[diffuser]

Tom McCullough is Aston Martin F1 team's performance director.... For him to say "“The performance of the team this year hasn’t been at the level that we’ve all been wanting it to be at" is insane.

Dan Fallows was not working alone on the AMR24

“We haven’t quite delivered there, and [dismissing Fallows has] been a decision made by the team.”

Team would be "Performance Director Tom McCullough, Deputy Technical Director Eric Blandin, Engineering Director Luca Furbatto and Executive Director – Technical, Bob Bell".

Exactly, that team failed to deliver.

It takes nothing to all their impressive CVs but as team they failed and only Fallows paid the consequences.

One way of looking at it, another is, they thought he was the problem. I doudt they would fire the one guy they thought would make them successful. Firing all of them wouldn't be prudent. They might also bring back Fallows later with aero responsibilities with a lower salary.

[Ferro]

“We haven’t quite delivered there, and [dismissing Fallows has] been a decision made by the team.”

Team would be "Performance Director Tom McCullough, Deputy Technical Director Eric Blandin, Engineering Director Luca Furbatto and Executive Director – Technical, Bob Bell".

Exactly, that team failed to deliver.

It takes nothing to all their impressive CVs but as team they failed and only Fallows paid the consequences.

One way of looking at it, another is, they thought he was the problem. I doudt they would fire the one guy they thought would make them successful. Firing all of them wouldn't be prudent. They might also bring back Fallows later with aero responsibilities with a lower salary.

The point is not to bring Fallows back, as Fallows is still there. I remember that he was not fired but that he has a new position at AM, but it remains to be seen what his new role will be.

[diffuser]

Exactly, that team failed to deliver.

It takes nothing to all their impressive CVs but as team they failed and only Fallows paid the consequences.

One way of looking at it, another is, they thought he was the problem. I doudt they would fire the one guy they thought would make them successful. Firing all of them wouldn't be prudent. They might also bring back Fallows later with aero responsibilities with a lower salary.

The point is not to bring Fallows back, as Fallows is still there. I remember that he was not fired but that he has a new position at AM, but it remains to be seen what his new role will be.

I meant bring him back to AM F1 team but yes he still under contract to AM. His salary is just no longer counting towards the F1 budget. Nor does he have any F1 responsibilities.

[Ferro]

We don’t know what is the issue, but we also know that this current - bad - rules makes car very sensitive and difficult to setup or understand

I mean, with some little changes you can have big progress so let’s keep hope for 2025

Hope to do some podiums and fight with the top4

Im trying to have any hope about they will sit on the backyard at Newey's house for a tea and take some tips about make 2025 better. I cant believe they will not trying talk with Newey about, especially after the embarassing performance this year. yeah i know they cant because Newey is in his gardening, but, all of us know how this world works, and Lawrence Stroll knows make things

I think the car will have a good start to 2025. They've shown over the last 2 years that by gathering real time data on the current car or whatever else happens differently over the off season, they can make upgrades that work.

The problem is in season. I doudt we'll have upgrades to the 2025 car beyond July. Newey starts March 1st. First race is March 16th. He'll surely be around to ask questions before the first upgrade of the 2025 year.

We agree that Newey will be the real leader of the project and he will certainly give instructions to the technical team during his time in the garden to guide the evolution of the AMR25. But we must not underestimate that newcomers like Cowell and Bell are actively involved in the team and both made their former teams world champions. It should also be added that before March 16 they will have their own new tools for the construction and development of the vehicle. I know that at this moment it is difficult to believe in a significant advance for 2025, but my prediction is that they will.

[KimiRai]

Im trying to have any hope about they will sit on the backyard at Newey's house for a tea and take some tips about make 2025 better. I cant believe they will not trying talk with Newey about, especially after the embarassing performance this year. yeah i know they cant because Newey is in his gardening, but, all of us know how this world works, and Lawrence Stroll knows make things

I think the car will have a good start to 2025. They've shown over the last 2 years that by gathering real time data on the current car or whatever else happens differently over the off season, they can make upgrades that work.

The problem is in season. I doudt we'll have upgrades to the 2025 car beyond July. Newey starts March 1st. First race is March 16th. He'll surely be around to ask questions before the first upgrade of the 2025 year.

We agree that Newey will be the real leader of the project and he will certainly give instructions to the technical team during his time in the garden to guide the evolution of the AMR25. But we must not underestimate that newcomers like Cowell and Bell are actively involved in the team and both made their former teams world champions. It should also be added that before March 16 they will have their own new tools for the construction and development of the vehicle. I know that at this moment it is difficult to believe in a significant advance for 2025, but my prediction is that they will.

AMR25 could certainly be an improvement and a better car but really imo any real hopes are done for this regulation set. Too many months have been lost and time is effectively running out. Even if Aston finally cracked the development code and all, 2026 is right ahead and most likely teams will stop with updates well before than what is usually the case next year. But at least it would be a good sign if they get out of this mess.

[Nikosar]

Im trying to have any hope about they will sit on the backyard at Newey's house for a tea and take some tips about make 2025 better. I cant believe they will not trying talk with Newey about, especially after the embarassing performance this year. yeah i know they cant because Newey is in his gardening, but, all of us know how this world works, and Lawrence Stroll knows make things

I think the car will have a good start to 2025. They've shown over the last 2 years that by gathering real time data on the current car or whatever else happens differently over the off season, they can make upgrades that work.

The problem is in season. I doudt we'll have upgrades to the 2025 car beyond July. Newey starts March 1st. First race is March 16th. He'll surely be around to ask questions before the first upgrade of the 2025 year.

We agree that Newey will be the real leader of the project and he will certainly give instructions to the technical team during his time in the garden to guide the evolution of the AMR25. But we must not underestimate that newcomers like Cowell and Bell are actively involved in the team and both made their former teams world champions. It should also be added that before March 16 they will have their own new tools for the construction and development of the vehicle. I know that at this moment it is difficult to believe in a significant advance for 2025, but my prediction is that they will.

Yeah you right at the end it is a team work. And Andy Cowell importance is as BIG as Newey. Even Newey outcome depends on Cowell's work. Cowell position as CEO is to somehow balance power between him and Newey (shareholder). Cowell even as CEO will influence the PU side of the car.

Extremely smart move from Lawrence Sr to avoid power/influence/reporting battle inside the team.

[diffuser]

I think the car will have a good start to 2025. They've shown over the last 2 years that by gathering real time data on the current car or whatever else happens differently over the off season, they can make upgrades that work.

The problem is in season. I doudt we'll have upgrades to the 2025 car beyond July. Newey starts March 1st. First race is March 16th. He'll surely be around to ask questions before the first upgrade of the 2025 year.

We agree that Newey will be the real leader of the project and he will certainly give instructions to the technical team during his time in the garden to guide the evolution of the AMR25. But we must not underestimate that newcomers like Cowell and Bell are actively involved in the team and both made their former teams world champions. It should also be added that before March 16 they will have their own new tools for the construction and development of the vehicle. I know that at this moment it is difficult to believe in a significant advance for 2025, but my prediction is that they will.

AMR25 could certainly be an improvement and a better car but really imo any real hopes are done for this regulation set. Too many months have been lost and time is effectively running out. Even if Aston finally cracked the development code and all, 2026 is right ahead and most likely teams will stop with updates well before than what is usually the case next year. But at least it would be a good sign if they get out of this mess.

The regs will change but they'll just get more complicated and the ground effects "basics" part isn't changing. If they can't figure these out, imagine how complicated 2026 will be with all the moving parts.

[diffuser]

I think the car will have a good start to 2025. They've shown over the last 2 years that by gathering real time data on the current car or whatever else happens differently over the off season, they can make upgrades that work.

The problem is in season. I doudt we'll have upgrades to the 2025 car beyond July. Newey starts March 1st. First race is March 16th. He'll surely be around to ask questions before the first upgrade of the 2025 year.

We agree that Newey will be the real leader of the project and he will certainly give instructions to the technical team during his time in the garden to guide the evolution of the AMR25. But we must not underestimate that newcomers like Cowell and Bell are actively involved in the team and both made their former teams world champions. It should also be added that before March 16 they will have their own new tools for the construction and development of the vehicle. I know that at this moment it is difficult to believe in a significant advance for 2025, but my prediction is that they will.

Yeah you right at the end it is a team work. And Andy Cowell importance is as BIG as Newey. Even Newey outcome depends on Cowell's work. Cowell position as CEO is to somehow balance power between him and Newey (shareholder). Cowell even as CEO will influence the PU side of the car.

Extremely smart move from Lawrence Sr to avoid power/influence/reporting battle inside the team.

Cowell isn't really tied into day to day technical. He gonna be more manager than technical. Bell isn't new. He's been there for a couple of years, he's been heading up the 2026 car. Which will be nice if they leave him there leading into 2026. Bell is in his mid 60s. Cardile is still on target to arrive June/July time frame, which means in time for 2026.

Like I said, the start of 2025 we'll be competitive. Then we'll see after that what Bob can do. We'll probably be able to see if Newey is gonna be walking around with a sketch book in March 2025 if he's trying to help the 2025 car.

[diffuser]

Atleast, the race was entertaining.

Stories the same, slow out of corners ,therefore, we have more wing, we`re still slow out of corners and makes us slow in the straights too...

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

Atleast, the race was entertaining.

Stories the same, slow out of corners ,therefore, we have more wing, we`re still slow out of corners and makes us slow in the straights too...

For me was looks like again tyres degradation problems! Aston speed was pretty good on new tyres, but much earlier kicked in the fast degradation.

[Ferro]

We agree that Newey will be the real leader of the project and he will certainly give instructions to the technical team during his time in the garden to guide the evolution of the AMR25. But we must not underestimate that newcomers like Cowell and Bell are actively involved in the team and both made their former teams world champions. It should also be added that before March 16 they will have their own new tools for the construction and development of the vehicle. I know that at this moment it is difficult to believe in a significant advance for 2025, but my prediction is that they will.

Yeah you right at the end it is a team work. And Andy Cowell importance is as BIG as Newey. Even Newey outcome depends on Cowell's work. Cowell position as CEO is to somehow balance power between him and Newey (shareholder). Cowell even as CEO will influence the PU side of the car.

Extremely smart move from Lawrence Sr to avoid power/influence/reporting battle inside the team.

Cowell isn't really tied into day to day technical. He gonna be more manager than technical. Bell isn't new. He's been there for a couple of years, he's been heading up the 2026 car. Which will be nice if they leave him there leading into 2026. Bell is in his mid 60s. Cardile is still on target to arrive June/July time frame, which means in time for 2026.

Like I said, the start of 2025 we'll be competitive. Then we'll see after that what Bob can do. We'll probably be able to see if Newey is gonna be walking around with a sketch book in March 2025 if he's trying to help the 2025 car.

You're right, Cowell isn't in a specific area of ​​development, but he will be the main supervisor and validator of all the team's processes. If there's something he doesn't agree with, he'll guide the employees in another direction. He will be the ultimate and most responsible for the final product, so I have a lot of confidence in him.

[Nikosar]

Atleast, the race was entertaining.

Stories the same, slow out of corners ,therefore, we have more wing, we`re still slow out of corners and makes us slow in the straights too...

Alonso said that we need to expect more pain in these last GPs. I was hoping that cooler temperatures would have helped a little but that what it is and we know they are working for the future.

[Sedaxel]

Alo was moderately happy after the race. Stated that the car worked much better and that one point was legit.

He also said that VER was the best, and that he wish he could beat him in 2026... Not that possible in 2025. His words. It's quite clear that next season will be hard too.

[diffuser]

Atleast, the race was entertaining.

Stories the same, slow out of corners ,therefore, we have more wing, we`re still slow out of corners and makes us slow in the straights too...

For me was looks like again tyres degradation problems! Aston speed was pretty good on new tyres, but much earlier kicked in the fast degradation.

That's always gonna happen when you go on a 2 stop strategy and pit on the 5th lap. Your car is heavier on lap 5 than on lap15 so the 2 sets of tires remaining will naturally consume faster. PLUS, they need to cover more laps than the same sets by other drivers.

The idea of the early pitstop was to get in clear air and facilitate passing with a car with lower top speed.

I did wonder why lap 4? Why not lap 7? There is always a trade off...naturally the softs will start to go off, how much time do you loose on laps 5,6 and 7 on softs vs how much do you make up by not having to do those laps and the end of the 2 sets of hards.

The front left blistered on the first set of hards.They adjust front wing at 2nd pit stop and moved brake balance backwards to protect the fronts in the 3ird stint.