2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Cs98]

Part of this issue lies with the race engineers, who gave Sainz and Leclerc different instructions. Leclerc was told that "Sainz will not overtake you," only for Sainz to do so a second later. Sainz was not actually told to not overtake Leclerc, but rather that he shouldn't put pressure on him, which he didn't.

You think that when you tell Sainz to not put pressure on Leclerc that doesn’t include overtaking?

How exactly do you put pressure on a team mate then? A massage?

He didn't put pressure, he breezed by immediately and then held position with good pace. That should be justification enough in a race, unless we just want to give Leclerc charity podiums and not have him fight for it.

And any call, whatever it was for, came too late. The overtake was already happening when Sainz's engineer spoke.

[JPower]

You think that when you tell Sainz to not put pressure on Leclerc that doesn’t include overtaking?

How exactly do you put pressure on a team mate then? A massage?

Nope. Didn't hinder Leclerc's tire introduction.

Now if he hounded Leclerc around the track causing them both to nuke their tires early in the stint, different story.

Words are important. Can't make inferences in pressure situations. Say what you mean or it will be interpreted.

This is just hilarious. Anyway, selfish dude will drive for Williams next year, good riddance.

Aw, Leclerc got outdone on a 50/50 call again and we have to be sad for him. My bad.

Don’t worry, the 7x champ and most selfless driver on the grid will be sitting in garage over next year. All issues will be solved and no conflict will occur I’m sure. We’ll finally have the obedient Lewis Barichello to save the day.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Autoracer.it (F1.uno) notes that, despite Ferrari's huge strides this season, they are still not as reactive as they need to be. It seems the strategists were fixated on a one-stopper, and when they realized this was impossible they struggled to catch up, resulting in the drivers being told "We're looking into it" over and over. According to Autoracer's report, Maranello was not expecting the graining on the medium to be that bad and they didn't fully prepare for the scenario.

[dialtone]

Don’t worry, the 7x champ and most selfless driver on the grid will be sitting in garage over next year. All issues will be solved and no conflict will occur I’m sure. We’ll finally have the obedient Lewis Barichello to save the day.

Are we even sure he's driving for Ferrari? I know he signed a contract with the F1 team but words matter and I've not reviewed it so maybe he's just signing up to be on the pit wall.

[JPower]

Don’t worry, the 7x champ and most selfless driver on the grid will be sitting in garage over next year. All issues will be solved and no conflict will occur I’m sure. We’ll finally have the obedient Lewis Barichello to save the day.

Are we even sure he's driving for Ferrari? I know he signed a contract with the F1 team but words matter and I've not reviewed it so maybe he's just signing up to be on the pit wall.

Guess we'll find out soon enough. If he isn't I guess Leclerc will run by himself, which seems preferable to a large majority of fans on here and Twitter.

[yooogurt]

He didn't put pressure, he breezed by immediately and then held position with good pace. That should be justification enough in a race, unless we just want to give Leclerc charity podiums and not have him fight for it.

I think that's how ridiculous Sainz was trying to justify himself.

And any call, whatever it was for, came too late. The overtake was already happening when Sainz's engineer spoke.

Radio are coming in with a delay in the broadcast.

[Cs98]

He didn't put pressure, he breezed by immediately and then held position with good pace. That should be justification enough in a race, unless we just want to give Leclerc charity podiums and not have him fight for it.

I think that's how ridiculous Sainz was trying to justify himself.

And any call, whatever it was for, came too late. The overtake was already happening when Sainz's engineer spoke.

Radio are coming in with a delay in the broadcast.

I don't think Sainz needs to justify going racing and beating his teammate fair and square. It's not like Leclerc was finishing higher than 3rd, so Sainz got the most out of it at no cost to the team points.

I've calculated the delay before, it's about 4-5 seconds, so the call basically came right as he was opening DRS on the back straight. That's too late to issue an ambiguous "do not pressure" message. The move was in the bag at that point, no pressure needed.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Andretti stated they are in advanced talks with Ferrari to secure an engine. He also said they aren't speaking to any other manufacturers at the moment.

https://www.nbcnews.com/sports/motorspo ... rcna181722

He said the team is in discussions with Ferrari to build an engine for the first two years before 2028, when it plans to have a Cadillac power unit. He said the target is to launch with one experienced F1 driver and one “young American talent.” [...]

And which engine do you expect to use in the early years in 2026 and 2027? The rumors in the paddock in Las Vegas were that you’ll use a Ferrari engine. Is that correct?

That’s what we’re talking about. That’s not definite yet, but that’s the objective. And that’s the preference.

That could put you in a fantastic position in 2026 with the new regulations if Ferrari gets it together.

Absolutely. Even my history with Ferrari, and my relationship with Mr. Ferrari — all of it plays, plays tremendously. There’s so many factors here that make a lot of sense. It will be best of all worlds.

Are you considering or talking to other suppliers for the engine early on, whether it’s Mercedes or anyone else?

Not yet, no.

OK. Sounds like Ferrari is the priority in the early years.

We’re staying with that objective.

[AnotherAlex]

Are we even sure he's driving for Ferrari? I know he signed a contract with the F1 team but words matter and I've not reviewed it so maybe he's just signing up to be on the pit wall.

The irony is that it's the Sainz fans who seem to think that Sainz is incapable of understanding simple instructions.
Anyway, as long as he's not out performed by Albon, he'll probably be allowed to dictate strategy at Williams.

[PDR]

Hi to All.
I do not understand the "attack" on Sainz for last race...
We were not in position to push for a better result than 3rd in the race.
Let's blame Sainz for Baku crash and Singapore Q crash.
Also Brazil crash and not for Vegas.
Those incidents may cost the WCC.
He is the one who leaves, but his performance is maybe in highest level compared to previous years.
So even we highly appreciate Charles, we should not accuse the one who leaves.
Team has decided who is the best one year before and the judgement is fair.
But not sure for the replacement judgment even if Hamilton 's prodigy is one of a kind in the sport ( no matter if I am not fan due to the battles we had in the past especially 2008 period)

[ScuderiaLeo]

Information from Autoracer.it's (F1.uno) latest stream is that after meeting with the drivers, who had calmed down, Vasseur also met with their race engineers. Vasseur was very dissatisfied with the communication from the engineers, and this will be closely looked at for how they can improve.

There were some other things mentioned about the drivers and Maranello, but I didn't catch it. I will rewatch later or wait until they repost as an article, as I don't want to repeat something false by accident.

[LookingGlass]

Are we even sure he's driving for Ferrari? I know he signed a contract with the F1 team but words matter and I've not reviewed it so maybe he's just signing up to be on the pit wall.

The irony is that it's the Sainz fans who seem to think that Sainz is incapable of understanding simple instructions.
Anyway, as long as he's not out performed by Albon, he'll probably be allowed to dictate strategy at Williams.

From what I recall, Charles was leaving the pits on new hards, with Carlos already having his tyres worked in and up to temp after a couple of laps.

The "pressure" comment to be seems to be more "don't stay right up on Charles and push his pace" because Charles's tyres were not warmed up. No reason to hang out behind Charles waiting for his tyres to heat up, just going to lose more time and wear out your tyres faster because of the dirty air. Carlos was lapping quicker, as long as he passes safely then I don't see the issue.

[deadhead]

I’ve been waiting for someone to do this all year






https://x.com/robertofunoat/status/1861 ... 2n8am2mMAg

[Andres125sx]

The irony is that it's the Sainz haters who seem to think that Sainz is incapable of understanding simple instructions.

I corrected that for you

Sainz was instructed to not put Charles under pressure. And he didn't put Charles under pressure

If Charles fans assume that means do not pass, sorry, but you're wrong. Wording matters

If they tried to say do not pass, that's a mistake... by the team

But Sainz haters and/or Charles fans, will assume any instruction must be read from Charles pov, they don't care about Sainz, or even Ferrari, only Charles results matters

Every single time Sainz beats Charles, the forum get derailed with "Sainz is not a team player" BS

[Seanspeed]

Sainz was instructed to not put Charles under pressure. And he didn't put Charles under pressure

If Charles fans assume that means do not pass, sorry, but you're wrong. Wording matters

Location: Madrid, Spain

The defense of this is honestly just getting laughable at this point.

Real "You said not to take a cookie from the jar, but it's not technically a jar!" energy right here. smh