2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[napoleon1981]

I didn't see speed traces etc, but for quite a while now RB has been trundling around in very low engine modes in fp1. Usually they are right up there when it comes to qualy.

[Cassius]

Max went out first, there still was a lot of track evolution, he didnt have the perfect prep and a lot of traffic. Ferrari is fastest but not by that much.

Leclerc did his soft tire run within 10 seconds of Max. Watched it live. They followed each other on the out lap. Max was a full second slower. It's baffling.

Max was on higher fuel or low engine mode. He didn't gain much on the fastest parts of his soft lap vs his medium lap despite massive track evolution.

Ferrari looks fast, but I expect Max to be close.
Especially as every lap on mediums he was fastest overall with most purple minisectors of anyone until others continued to set fast laps and Max was already preparing for his high fuel run.

He often starts early with his race sim when he is happy with the balance.

[AR3-GP]

Dog slow on the mediums.

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Dog slow on the mediums.

Yeah doesn't look brilliant in quali

[AR3-GP]

This is repulsive

[f1isgood]

This is terrible to put it mildly.

[AR3-GP]

Max's laps were pretty much perfect. It's just slow. The season is done. It is what it is.

[f1isgood]

How did this car get outdeveloped so badly? Just bad. Hopefully the team can at least be more competitive next year. McLaren's upgrades are worth time in literal sense. Every time they add something they become quicker. The technical team there deserves a hell lot of credit.

[Juzh]

Car is good, the best even, in S3 which is a bunch of super fast corners, but just loses massive time in anything below 200 kmh. They need to fix this for next year or it will be more of the same. Mclaren, ferrari and merc have proven outright downforce is not the most important, but rather just a bonus.

Strangely car is also fastest in speed trap, though I doubt it will do them much good.

[f1isgood]

Car is good, the best even, in S3 which is a bunch of super fast corners, but just loses massive time in anything below 200 kmh. They need to fix this for next year or it will be more of the same. Mclaren, ferrari and merc have proven outright downforce is not the most important, but rather just a bonus.

Strangely car is also fastest in speed trap, though I doubt it will do them much good.

This was observable even at Bahrain. Hope they have a better trade-off for RB21.

[napoleon1981]

Im curious what the deg looks like. Fastest 3rd sector could also mean that the tires were just coming in late.

[Cs98]

Car is good, the best even, in S3 which is a bunch of super fast corners, but just loses massive time in anything below 200 kmh. They need to fix this for next year or it will be more of the same. Mclaren, ferrari and merc have proven outright downforce is not the most important, but rather just a bonus.

Strangely car is also fastest in speed trap, though I doubt it will do them much good.

I think the car looks pretty good onboard, the laps were spotless and there's no visual problems. It's just not quite fast enough in the long medium speed corners. Two identical back to back lap times is also a promising sign for deg. It'll be interesting to see the race pace, that's far more important.

[AR3-GP]

Car is good, the best even, in S3 which is a bunch of super fast corners, but just loses massive time in anything below 200 kmh. They need to fix this for next year or it will be more of the same. Mclaren, ferrari and merc have proven outright downforce is not the most important, but rather just a bonus.

Strangely car is also fastest in speed trap, though I doubt it will do them much good.

I think the car looks pretty good onboard, the laps were spotless and there's no visual problems. It's just not quite fast enough in the long medium speed corners. Two identical back to back lap times is also a promising sign for deg. It'll be interesting to see the race pace, that's far more important.

Well, there's a chance that the sprint can go like Brazil where Max seemed to have better deg but I'm not sure about anything. They are so slow and it's not like the laps had mistakes or wide moments. As you said, he set identical laps on the first and 2nd runs. He was the only driver who went full throttle in T14. There was nothing left in this car.

[AR3-GP]

Car is good, the best even, in S3 which is a bunch of super fast corners, but just loses massive time in anything below 200 kmh. They need to fix this for next year or it will be more of the same. Mclaren, ferrari and merc have proven outright downforce is not the most important, but rather just a bonus.

Strangely car is also fastest in speed trap, though I doubt it will do them much good.

Speed trap is not surprising. The wing is open. Being quick in S3 is good for lining up overtakes (if they haven't dropped out of DRS range from the deficit in S1 and S2).

Regarding the car, I think the problem is conceptual. To win 3 out of 5 WCC in the era means it's probably not a "bad concept" but it does seem like the end of the road for it. There's no telling how much Red Bull will be able to pivot over the winter, but they need to cut their losses and pivot or they'll be 4th best next year.

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not accounting for DNFs