Lando Norris 10second stop/go penalty - Qatar 2024

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Lando Norris 10second stop/go penalty - Qatar 2024

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Seems a very harsh penalty for Lando failing to slow under yellow flags.

Seems the stewards are keen to hand out harsh penalties this weekend
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Ridiculous penalty!

We haven’t seen a 10 second stop/go since I don’t know when…Hamilton Fuji 2008?

It should have been a 5 second penalty! Nothing serious since it was just debris on the front straight!

Had it been double yellows with someone off the track I would understand the penalty…

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I think they did it because they want a close WCC fight in the next race.
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He did not go slower, he was guilty. But how they waited for so long to give it is just sick and intentionally made to help Ferrari to close the gap...
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He won't do it again!

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Initially I missed marshals waving double yellows, I only saw the yellow board and assumed that was it. In this case there probably wouldn't be a problem, but with the marshals in the mix it's an entirely different story. I think penalty is warranted however 10s stop go seems too severe imo. Maybe they went hard because he's blasting past with DRS open

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f1isgood wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:28
I think they did it because they want a close WCC fight in the next race.
enough with this nonsense... 21 points behind in 1 race is not a close WCC fight.

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I understand "safety" penalties are harsh... and Lando did f... up.

But it's ironic that the freaking race director didn't show much care for safety.
He let the race go on with a foreign object right in the middle of the straight, SC obviously necessary.

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Having seen the footage above, the penalty is 110% fair. Failing to slow under yellows in quali is 3 place grid drop and your lap deleted. What comes under the race is another thing. Is there any other situations similar to thing.


Agree the SC should have been called 3 laps sooner.
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dialtone wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:02
f1isgood wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:28
I think they did it because they want a close WCC fight in the next race.
enough with this nonsense... 21 points behind in 1 race is not a close WCC fight.
Ferrari 1-2 at AD isn't unlikely. Even the 2023 car was good there. Add in some mix with RBR/Merc in between the 2 McL, it is certainly far more interesting than it was before.

Also, I think it's incredibly harsh. 10s would have been more fairer. The FIA does do things to spice things up whether people like it or not. "Random" Inconsistencies appearing in close title battles is not something we have not seen in the past.

Also, I am not going to say it is because of Ferrari that they did the 10s stop/go. It was simply a leader and a chaser and they wanted to bring the chaser closer and the leader did something the FIA could use to their advantage to achieve the goal.

EDIT: The penalty is fair. FIA actually did their job but still it bugs me it was so late. Not going to insinuate this after additional evidence.
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chrisc90 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:04
Having seen the footage above, the penalty is 110% fair. Failing to slow under yellows in quali is 3 place grid drop and your lap deleted. What comes under the race is another thing. Is there any other situations similar to thing.


Agree the SC should have been called 3 laps sooner.
I don't agree. I don't think it was fair.

I will say that this is how penalties should be given, but not how they've been given in the last few years. Raining down 5/10s penalties has done nothing to deter violations.

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dialtone wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:08
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:04
Having seen the footage above, the penalty is 110% fair. Failing to slow under yellows in quali is 3 place grid drop and your lap deleted. What comes under the race is another thing. Is there any other situations similar to thing.


Agree the SC should have been called 3 laps sooner.
I don't agree. I don't think it was fair.

I will say that this is how penalties should be given, but not how they've been given in the last few years. Raining down 5/10s penalties has done nothing to deter violations.
Just for clarification. I meant receiving a penalty was deserved, the severity is another one which im not sure is deserved.
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McLarenHonda wrote:Ridiculous penalty!

We haven’t seen a 10 second stop/go since I don’t know when…Hamilton Fuji 2008?

It should have been a 5 second penalty! Nothing serious since it was just debris on the front straight!

Had it been double yellows with someone off the track I would understand the penalty…
Drivers don't know, it could be a car upside down, or something more severe, as being discussed on Sky at the moment.

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Qualifying in 2021 was very similar right?
I mean Max was penalized in the same straight, while his steering wheel and track leds showed green, but there was a steward waiving double yellows.
I'm pretty sure that's a vivid memory for Verstappen, and probably this is why he was so vary for this now.

Looks like there is a trigger happy steward on this straight who likes to throw in the double yellow, regardless of what the led panels show.

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dialtone wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:08
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:04
Having seen the footage above, the penalty is 110% fair. Failing to slow under yellows in quali is 3 place grid drop and your lap deleted. What comes under the race is another thing. Is there any other situations similar to thing.


Agree the SC should have been called 3 laps sooner.
I don't agree. I don't think it was fair.

I will say that this is how penalties should be given, but not how they've been given in the last few years. Raining down 5/10s penalties has done nothing to deter violations.
No, it is the fair penalty. This is a standard penalty, every driver knows what is to be given for failing to slow under double yellow.
An example is last year Monaco F3, they gave the same pen to Bortoleto.
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