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Yeah it felt harsh at the time but it was in accordance with precedentCs98 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2024, 11:08In hindsight the penalties for Lando and Hamilton were the correct ones according to precedent. Lando was unlucky with the mixed messaging from the boards flashing green, but the 10s stop and go is the correct penalty for speeding under double waved yellows, which he did. As for Hamilton it all depends on how much you speed, but the penalty is pre-defined and the stewards just applied it.
Ferry wrote: ↑02 Dec 2024, 11:56How much of a lift is enough lift? One is a 10 s stop&go, the other is totally fine. What's the practical difference between these two?
https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1863288801960845563
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gdu6AXeXsAA ... =4096x4096
From that lift Norris gained almost a second on Verstappen, which was why it was so obvious to Verstappen that Norris did not lift.organic wrote: ↑01 Dec 2024, 22:08
But it's the normal penalty for that offense, so it's not ridiculous. I don't think anyone at McLaren or Norris himself has complained at all
It's not unclear from the telemetry
https://i.imgur.com/bVtuasI.jpeg
Personally I think the only argument can be that there was some confusion with a green flashing board immediately after the marshals waving double yellows, potentially serving as some mitigation but in the case of double yellows usually the stewards apply maximum penalty even when there are confusing circumstances (see Verstappen quali 2021 at Qatar, for instance)
FormulaDataAnalysis is not the best source of info on X, he just uses "facts" to peddle his own narratives. In this case he has taken the wrong lap and used it to spread false info. The double yellow happened on lap 30, this guy shows lap 31, Max lifted completely going into the braking zone of T1, lost around 0,5 s. Lando kept his foot in.Ferry wrote: ↑02 Dec 2024, 11:56How much of a lift is enough lift? One is a 10 s stop&go, the other is totally fine. What's the practical difference between these two?
https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1863288801960845563
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gdu6AXeXsAA ... =4096x4096
It was possible. Only the best of the best like Mazepin or Latifi and some F3 driver managed to violate this rule in the race before this weekend.
Either way , Lando's passive reaction to it , putting all the blame on himself is just why Max likes Lando and hates Russell. Leclerc is too passive as well.Ferry wrote: ↑02 Dec 2024, 11:56How much of a lift is enough lift? One is a 10 s stop&go, the other is totally fine. What's the practical difference between these two?
https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1863288801960845563
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gdu6AXeXsAA ... =4096x4096
It’s amazing that a sport of F1’s caliber hasn’t invented an automated system to instantly put the pit limiter on when the system shows double waved yellows!
That is probably more dangerous than not doing it. Drivers would start crashing into each other due to varying braking distances and lockups caused by the lack of ABS.McLarenHonda wrote: ↑02 Dec 2024, 18:32It’s amazing that a sport of F1’s caliber hasn’t invented an automated system to instantly put the pit limiter on when the system shows double waved yellows!