2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[F1NAC]

Hirakawa is in the car for FP1 so one McL will have less time on track. Could be spicy if he bins it.

[SoulPancake13]

Hirakawa is in the car for FP1 so one McL will have less time on track. Could be spicy if he bins it.

We will also have Arthur Leclerc driving Sainz's car in FP1, so we have a similar situation.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Both teams will put the drivers on the most risk-free run plans possible. A crash would only happen if another driver ran into them.

FP1 conditions won't be representative for qualifying or the race either so missing it isn't a huge blow.

[bananapeel23]

Both teams will put the drivers on the most risk-free run plans possible. A crash would only happen if another driver ran into them.

FP1 conditions won't be representative for qualifying or the race either so missing it isn't a huge blow.

Not like an FP1 crash is the end of the world anyway. Unless they have a mega shunt that ruins the gearbox/chassis and forces the team to see which parts can be salvaged, it can be rebuilt between sessions.

[F1NAC]

Hirakawa is in the car for FP1 so one McL will have less time on track. Could be spicy if he bins it.

We will also have Arthur Leclerc driving Sainz's car in FP1, so we have a similar situation.

Nevermind then. Totally forgot about him

[Fakepivot]

don't want to bring up baku again but red bull head of technical Wache said this -
"I think it's so difficult to develop that I think some grey areas are so attractive as an engineer. When you see the rear wing of McLaren, I'm sorry, but it's more than grey, and they use it for multiple races. Because, without that, Baku, they will not win. Even our constructors' championship will be completely different."

[SoulPancake13]

I mean it was very obvious that it was past the gray area, only people defending it were McLaren fans. Sucks to think about Baku really... that was likely a 30 point swing(14 if Charles won ahead of Piastri, 12 for Sainz holding P4 and then Norris would have lost 4 points as well if there was no crash).

This also helped them tremendously in Monza and Spa as well, could have been even better for us then. Either way, the focus is now onto Abu Dhabi. The last rear limited, high degradation circuit we went to was COTA and we dominated there, gotta hope for more of the same.

[f1316]

Apparently we will go ‘extreme’ in Abu Dhabi: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10678937/

Meaning:
1) very low setup for max downforce given smooth surface
2) Sainz also using the new floor (I guess they have spares!)
3) squeezing everything from the PU inc some kind of hybrid “attack map” (whatever that means!)

I always find these types of things a bit spurious as it implies they’re usually leaving a margin but maybe they are just risking more this time since there’s nothing to lose/everything to gain.

[deadhead]

3) squeezing everything from the PU inc some kind of hybrid “attack map” (whatever that means!)

Maybe on SAI but considering the amount of KM on LECs unit it might be a bad idea but they've got all the data so hopefully it works out

[catent]

Apparently we will go ‘extreme’ in Abu Dhabi: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10678937/

Meaning:
1) very low setup for max downforce given smooth surface
2) Sainz also using the new floor (I guess they have spares!)
3) squeezing everything from the PU inc some kind of hybrid “attack map” (whatever that means!)

I always find these types of things a bit spurious as it implies they’re usually leaving a margin but maybe they are just risking more this time since there’s nothing to lose/everything to gain.

An interesting tidbit from that article which caught my attention:

Sainz was unimpressed with the new floor in Vegas and rejected it, while Leclerc immediately took to it.

Is there any further discussion/speculation as to why that may be the case? Obviously Leclerc and Sainz have very different driving styles, so it would make sense that may not take the same liking to the same upgrade(s).

Edit: The article also claims that the floor changes mandated at Vegas impacted Ferrari's performance, while Vasseur has previously claimed that would not be the case. Is Nugnes talking out his ass, or did Vasseur underestimate the impact of this new rule?

[ScuderiaLeo]

An interesting tidbit from that article which caught my attention:

Sainz was unimpressed with the new floor in Vegas and rejected it, while Leclerc immediately took to it.

Is there any further discussion/speculation as to why that may be the case? Obviously Leclerc and Sainz have very different driving styles, so it would make sense that may not take the same liking to the same upgrade(s).

Edit: The article also claims that the floor changes mandated at Vegas impacted Ferrari's performance, while Vasseur has previously claimed that would not be the case. Is Nugnes talking out his ass, or did Vasseur underestimate the impact of this new rule?

I'm confused about Sainz supposedly rejecting the floor for two reasons:

1. The Autosport article about the floor last week said Sainz had positive reviews of it.
2. If Sainz hated it that much, why would they force him to use it? Vasseur has said many times this year that driver confidence and comfort is worth more than car efficiency.

Maybe on SAI but considering the amount of KM on LECs unit it might be a bad idea but they've got all the data so hopefully it works out

Well, this is the last time they'll use it, so they might as well push it to the very limit.

[dialtone]

What’s the current engine usage across the grid, anyone has the table?

[SoulPancake13]

Duchessa of now AutoRacer says there will not be a new floor for Sainz and that they will still need to do tests in Yas Marina with the new floor to see if it will be used.

The new floor is more stable in the high speed corners, which Abu Dhabi doesn't really have.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Duchessa of now AutoRacer says there will not be a new floor for Sainz and that they will still need to do tests in Yas Marina with the new floor to see if it will be used.

The new floor is more stable in the high speed corners, which Abu Dhabi doesn't really have.

Thank you for sharing. This one is much more believable than the Nugnes article.

https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-solo-un ... a-valutare

At Las Vegas, Ferrari introduced an experimental floor, not intended to be a performance-enhancing element for the SF-24 but rather for correlation testing after increasing the frontal section in the wind tunnel. The floor’s edges were completely redesigned, aiming to synchronize the airflow from the front tires with the downstream flow of the car. While it did not enhance outright speed since the standard floor was already very effective in slow corners, it offered improvements in drivability during high-speed turns, which both drivers appreciated. This opened the door for its use in Qatar.

Carlos Sainz’s feedback was positive regarding confidence in the car, with data confirming that, while the overall downforce remained similar, the new floor altered how it generated downforce and reached its peak. This resulted in greater confidence, particularly in corners above 200 km/h. While Las Vegas had few such high-speed sections and they were not critical to performance, Lusail’s circuit was dominated by them. For this reason, Ferrari chose to equip Charles Leclerc’s SF-24 with the floor, validating the observations from America and using it throughout the weekend with calculated risks.

At Abu Dhabi, the experimental floor will again be available, but there will be no second spare unit. This detail is significant and presents a greater risk at the Yas Marina Circuit, which has more critical run-off areas. Furthermore, only Turn 3 is very fast, while the track mostly features tight, slow corners. Engineers believe the standard SF-24 setup should be equally competitive on straights and medium-slow corners (with the exception of Turn 5 and Turn 10, which have wider radii).