Aston Martin AMR24

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Waz
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wiktor977 wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 01:57
Looks like throughout the year with most updates they gained more questions and unknowns rather than pure performance. It's just weird to see time-consuming and expensive updates being replaced by an old spec just after a race or two. I hope they will find the solution for this quickly because how can you build a car for 2026 knowing that the tools that you are using in the factory are not giving you the expected results on the track?
Mercedes engineers have quietly admitted in post season test that the rear suspension never worked as intended.

So the test rig data would not have matched the on track behaviour, and this is where unpredictable results enter the story. Mercedes obviously had a much better season than AMR, but a lot of the aero performance relies on the rear suspension being stable.

The AMR aero team have been fighting with a blind fold on all season. Fallows knew immediately there was going to be a problem and combining different specs looking for a different outcome was the public result.

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Waz wrote:
19 Dec 2024, 16:02
wiktor977 wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 01:57
Looks like throughout the year with most updates they gained more questions and unknowns rather than pure performance. It's just weird to see time-consuming and expensive updates being replaced by an old spec just after a race or two. I hope they will find the solution for this quickly because how can you build a car for 2026 knowing that the tools that you are using in the factory are not giving you the expected results on the track?
Mercedes engineers have quietly admitted in post season test that the rear suspension never worked as intended.

So the test rig data would not have matched the on track behaviour, and this is where unpredictable results enter the story. Mercedes obviously had a much better season than AMR, but a lot of the aero performance relies on the rear suspension being stable.

The AMR aero team have been fighting with a blind fold on all season. Fallows knew immediately there was going to be a problem and combining different specs looking for a different outcome was the public result.

Still Merc earned far more points with the same rear suspension. If one removes Lance from the equation, by not using the constructors points to compare, Instead just comparing the 3 drivers ...
2024 Driver Standings
Pos Driver            Car                          Pts
6     George Russell  Mercedes                     245
7     Lewis Hamilton  Mercedes                     223
9     Fernando Alonso Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes  70
We see that Alonso is significantly behind. The is issue with AMR was far more than the rear suspension.

makecry
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Waz wrote:
19 Dec 2024, 16:02
wiktor977 wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 01:57
Looks like throughout the year with most updates they gained more questions and unknowns rather than pure performance. It's just weird to see time-consuming and expensive updates being replaced by an old spec just after a race or two. I hope they will find the solution for this quickly because how can you build a car for 2026 knowing that the tools that you are using in the factory are not giving you the expected results on the track?
Mercedes engineers have quietly admitted in post season test that the rear suspension never worked as intended.

So the test rig data would not have matched the on track behaviour, and this is where unpredictable results enter the story. Mercedes obviously had a much better season than AMR, but a lot of the aero performance relies on the rear suspension being stable.

The AMR aero team have been fighting with a blind fold on all season. Fallows knew immediately there was going to be a problem and combining different specs looking for a different outcome was the public result.
The mercedes won multiple races this year.

collindsilva
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makecry wrote:
20 Dec 2024, 03:19
Waz wrote:
19 Dec 2024, 16:02
wiktor977 wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 01:57
Looks like throughout the year with most updates they gained more questions and unknowns rather than pure performance. It's just weird to see time-consuming and expensive updates being replaced by an old spec just after a race or two. I hope they will find the solution for this quickly because how can you build a car for 2026 knowing that the tools that you are using in the factory are not giving you the expected results on the track?
Mercedes engineers have quietly admitted in post season test that the rear suspension never worked as intended.

So the test rig data would not have matched the on track behaviour, and this is where unpredictable results enter the story. Mercedes obviously had a much better season than AMR, but a lot of the aero performance relies on the rear suspension being stable.

The AMR aero team have been fighting with a blind fold on all season. Fallows knew immediately there was going to be a problem and combining different specs looking for a different outcome was the public result.
The mercedes won multiple races this year.
But merc developed the suspension, they know the flaws, their upgrade were around these flaws. Seems this year will be another new suspension from merc, it may provide a large operating window.

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AMR25 speculation thread is up.
laspeorasdeaston wrote:
20 Dec 2024, 12:55
Speculation thread for Aston Martin's 2025 contender.

It will be an interesting season to see how the new tools (new simulator, new wind tunnel) and new personnel (Enrico Cardile, Adrian Newey) manage to create this car, but especially evolve it.

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