2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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I already feel like this season is going to be artificial with the third of the season rule change.

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https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/20 ... amr26.html

They also write now that the AMR26 is already in the new tunnel. No word of the AMR25.

Could really be, what other sources already wrote in the last few months, that the new tunnel is only in use for the AMR26.

The full switch to the new modell will anyway be in just a few months.

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I'm sure they will run the AMR25 in the new tunnel too, to see how it correlates to the Merc tunnel, and for in season upgrades.

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They need to build winning momentum this season already. Alonso might be a seasoned campaigner, but race operations and strategy over the last couple of years has been slow to react or simply puzzling.

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Waz wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 14:44
They need to build winning momentum this season already. Alonso might be a seasoned campaigner, but race operations and strategy over the last couple of years has been slow to react or simply puzzling.
First thing that needs to change to show they have the winning mindset... pit stops. Aston Martin's stops were slower than most of the other teams and inconsistent. Consistent stops under 2.5 seconds should be the bare minimum. These 2.7, 2.8 second stops mixed in with a 4.5 one is unacceptable.

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TyreSlip wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 14:49
Waz wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 14:44
They need to build winning momentum this season already. Alonso might be a seasoned campaigner, but race operations and strategy over the last couple of years has been slow to react or simply puzzling.
First thing that needs to change to show they have the winning mindset... pit stops. Aston Martin's stops were slower than most of the other teams and inconsistent. Consistent stops under 2.5 seconds should be the bare minimum. These 2.7, 2.8 second stops mixed in with a 4.5 one is unacceptable.
If you have a good car you are motivated and do well, if you fight at the back the pit stops will be slow regardless. I remember amr23 in Jeddah to serve Alonso's start penalty they were just perfect. So depending on where you are, it all changes.

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Results should be expected from April maybe

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Sherrinford wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 16:25
TyreSlip wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 14:49
Waz wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 14:44
They need to build winning momentum this season already. Alonso might be a seasoned campaigner, but race operations and strategy over the last couple of years has been slow to react or simply puzzling.
First thing that needs to change to show they have the winning mindset... pit stops. Aston Martin's stops were slower than most of the other teams and inconsistent. Consistent stops under 2.5 seconds should be the bare minimum. These 2.7, 2.8 second stops mixed in with a 4.5 one is unacceptable.
If you have a good car you are motivated and do well, if you fight at the back the pit stops will be slow regardless. I remember amr23 in Jeddah to serve Alonso's start penalty they were just perfect. So depending on where you are, it all changes.

They hired a new pit stop Manager last year ...can't remember his name ... They sometimes have to change personnel or update pit stop tools to get more consistent pit stops. It did get alot better in 2024.

This year they added Marc Cox as chief Mech from McLaren.

Edit

Cox is going to Aston Martin Evolution.

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diffuser wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 01:39
SSJ4 wrote:
03 Feb 2025, 23:59
not long to go guys. 3 weeks until we get carried away with journalists saying if the car handles well or not
Well it's almost the 4th....4 +14 equals the presentation.
I’ll be shocked if any team shows the real thing during that presentation. 3 weeks till pre season testing is what I should have clarified

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diffuser wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 23:36
It would be illegal for Toyota to do CFD analysis for HAAS.
Can you point to the regulations that would make it illegal? As a technical partner, what are they allowed to do?
Komatsu recently said while they will continue to use Ferrari's WT because of it's recently installed rubberized floor, he also said he wouldn't say "never" in terms of using Toyota's one day (if they upgrade it and such). He also mentioned logistics, naturally. In the same article it was noted that Andretti is using Toyota's WT. Andretti isn't a confirmed entry for 2026 and what WT/CFD limitations are they subject to? None, is what I thought.

Similarly, as AMR's power unit provider and technical partner, what is Honda not allowed to do? My understanding is that Honda also factors in aerodynamics and vibration amongst other factors in their test rigs. To what extent are their own CFD resources allowed? I've wondered the same about Dallara and what are they limited to do for Haas. It goes without saying that AMRs WT should be sufficient but CFD is a different area in itself. While the CFD time is limited, is it stipulated that it has to all happen under the same roof?

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ispano6 wrote:
04 Feb 2025, 18:55
diffuser wrote:
02 Feb 2025, 23:36
It would be illegal for Toyota to do CFD analysis for HAAS.
Can you point to the regulations that would make it illegal? As a technical partner, what are they allowed to do?
Komatsu recently said while they will continue to use Ferrari's WT because of it's recently installed rubberized floor, he also said he wouldn't say "never" in terms of using Toyota's one day (if they upgrade it and such). He also mentioned logistics, naturally. In the same article it was noted that Andretti is using Toyota's WT. Andretti isn't a confirmed entry for 2026 and what WT/CFD limitations are they subject to? None, is what I thought.

Similarly, as AMR's power unit provider and technical partner, what is Honda not allowed to do? My understanding is that Honda also factors in aerodynamics and vibration amongst other factors in their test rigs. To what extent are their own CFD resources allowed? I've wondered the same about Dallara and what are they limited to do for Haas. It goes without saying that AMRs WT should be sufficient but CFD is a different area in itself. While the CFD time is limited, is it stipulated that it has to all happen under the same roof?
What I mean by Illegal is that whatever Toyota does, would have to have a cost associated to it and it would be applied against the CAP. Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) time is controlled in Formula 1 and CFD can only be done at 1 designated site.

From ChatGPT:

These restrictions include limitations on the computational power and memory that can be used for CFD simulations.

CFD limitations:
The FIA has set limits on the main memory capacity and compute power that can be used for CFD simulations, with a maximum compute power of 12.288 GFlops.

Restrictions on CFD usage:
The FIA has also introduced restrictions on the number of CFD simulations that can be run, as well as the amount of data that can be processed, to prevent teams from using excessive computational resources.

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https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... -confirmed

It's obviously either a pre-recorded show with the real car or just an online visualization.