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Now, Stroll has been spotted taking part in a different motorsport category, testing a Citreon rally car in some shock footage that has appeared on YouTube.Leandro Lemos Motorsport posted the footage of Stroll testing the Rally2 car in Fafe, Portugal. Is this Hint?

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diffuser wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 18:38
Sherrinford wrote:
08 Feb 2025, 23:02
taperoo2k wrote:
08 Feb 2025, 19:04


Teams never show the real car at car launches. Testing is just that testing, it's never a good idea to get carried away with lap times as you don't know what programmes the teams are running.

I guess we'll either see more of the same from AM or they'll have found some areas to improve on that lifts them up the field a bit. I expect Newey will be focused on the 2026 project. Not that he won't have input on issues the team might have with the '25 car. Just don't expect any miracles from Newey for '25.
But do you really think that teams start copying concepts in the last year of these regulations, spending important resources that could have been instead allocated to the 2026 project?
But no guys, I think that the cars they will bring will be the definitive ones, also because copying solutions and putting them in your car does not ensure an advantage, given that each car has its own concept. The fact is that this car will not disappoint me and as I said It will surprise us. However, in my opinion, Newey needs just a month to fix everything
I would say no to "copying" but I'd yes to adapting ideas that they see on other teams cars. It doesn't have to be an idea that's worked either. Some times an idea is good but the implementation is bad. When these guys look at other teams cars they see what the engineers were trying to do.
Yes but in the last year of regulations I see it as difficult, I think that the teams now bring the definitive cars and then think directly about next year

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Sherrinford wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 20:16
diffuser wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 18:38
Sherrinford wrote:
08 Feb 2025, 23:02

But do you really think that teams start copying concepts in the last year of these regulations, spending important resources that could have been instead allocated to the 2026 project?
But no guys, I think that the cars they will bring will be the definitive ones, also because copying solutions and putting them in your car does not ensure an advantage, given that each car has its own concept. The fact is that this car will not disappoint me and as I said It will surprise us. However, in my opinion, Newey needs just a month to fix everything
I would say no to "copying" but I'd yes to adapting ideas that they see on other teams cars. It doesn't have to be an idea that's worked either. Some times an idea is good but the implementation is bad. When these guys look at other teams cars they see what the engineers were trying to do.
Yes but in the last year of regulations I see it as difficult, I think that the teams now bring the definitive cars and then think directly about next year
So you don't think anybody will try and adapt RBR idea of no air intake over the top of the side pod and use the horizontal part of the body closest to the car under the side pods and areas around the roll hoop ?

or are you saying that they will not adapt new things they see on the 2025 cars? Then, later apply those ideas on in their own 2025? That usually does happen, except for minor changes, anyways. Major changes requires too much work and probably cost too.

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I think it was a long time ago that Newey and Stroll Sr. started talking about important things. And that both reached logical agreements. The most normal thing is that Newey has something hidden for a long time that has not even been used in RB. And that will be effective. That's why Mr. Stroll will be happy to pay him a small mountain of money. It would be the logical deal between serious people. I can't imagine starting from zero-zero and going back to hit-miss trials with the money they are spending.

We will see. I would like it to be a "quirky" car but efficient as hell. Different from the others ... to change the situation and let the rest of the teams imitate us, copy us and break their minds trying.

I would like to see Fernando again with the best car but without internal intrigues. To see what happens.
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diffuser wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 20:53
Sherrinford wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 20:16
diffuser wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 18:38


I would say no to "copying" but I'd yes to adapting ideas that they see on other teams cars. It doesn't have to be an idea that's worked either. Some times an idea is good but the implementation is bad. When these guys look at other teams cars they see what the engineers were trying to do.
Yes but in the last year of regulations I see it as difficult, I think that the teams now bring the definitive cars and then think directly about next year
So you don't think anybody will try and adapt RBR idea of no air intake over the top of the side pod and use the horizontal part of the body closest to the car under the side pods and areas around the roll hoop ?

or are you saying that they will not adapt new things they see on the 2025 cars? Then, later apply those ideas on in their own 2025? That usually does happen, except for minor changes, anyways. Major changes requires too much work and probably cost too.
Probably some will take inspiration from last year's ideas, but after bringing the 2025 cars, I don't think they will make any updates during the season (a bit like in 2021).

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AMR heads already said that they will still work on the AMR25 parallel to the AMR26 until a point in the spring/summer. Naturally the ressources will switch more and more towards the AMR26.

Furthermore it's not the case that they can "save" wind tunnel time until Newey arrives, what some guys suggested. The wind tunnel periods are divided into parts, part 1 of 2025 is over at March 2nd (the sunday before Newey arrives).

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-wkst- wrote:
11 Feb 2025, 16:56
AMR heads already said that they will still work on the AMR25 parallel to the AMR26 until a point in the spring/summer. Naturally the ressources will switch more and more towards the AMR26.

Furthermore it's not the case that they can "save" wind tunnel time until Newey arrives, what some guys suggested. The wind tunnel periods are divided into parts, part 1 of 2025 is over at March 2nd (the sunday before Newey arrives).
where we can see these informations? like how long every gap of the time is? im interesting on this.

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In the 2025 sporting regulations (available at fia.com).
There will be 6 ATPs in any year. The dates of these periods will be as follows:
i. Period 1 will start on 1 January and finish at the end of week 9.
ii. Periods 2, 3 and 5 will run for exactly 8 weeks each.
iii. Period 4 will run for 10 weeks, comprising the Summer Factory Shutdown described
in Article 24.1.
iv. Period 6 will end on the 31 December.

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Yeah they just can test with a cars from 2 years ago, but. What they want to find testing AMR23? or this test was for warm drivers? and i leave here my sincerely question. What stops them from putting a secret floor in this car and testing it without anyone seeing? yeah, i know, probably they cant, but how someone prevent that?

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Were they testing the 2026 tyres? If not, then I think it's just a test to get the drivers comfortable for the new season.

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They did such a test last year in February too, it’s for the drivers to get back the feeling of the G forces. Nothing more.

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Sherrinford wrote:
11 Feb 2025, 14:55
diffuser wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 20:53
Sherrinford wrote:
10 Feb 2025, 20:16

Yes but in the last year of regulations I see it as difficult, I think that the teams now bring the definitive cars and then think directly about next year
So you don't think anybody will try and adapt RBR idea of no air intake over the top of the side pod and use the horizontal part of the body closest to the car under the side pods and areas around the roll hoop ?

or are you saying that they will not adapt new things they see on the 2025 cars? Then, later apply those ideas on in their own 2025? That usually does happen, except for minor changes, anyways. Major changes requires too much work and probably cost too.
Probably some will take inspiration from last year's ideas, but after bringing the 2025 cars, I don't think they will make any updates during the season (a bit like in 2021).
everything is on the table if there is a possible championship for teams in 25. if its a tight race between multiple teams in the front, they will continue to do whatever they can, under the cap, to win it. if ferrari or mclaren (or whatever other team) see a part that will work with their car, and its worth it, given the cost limits, they will do it. why lose out on a really high possibility championship in 25 when 26 is such a mystery? im sure the teams will have planned upgrades already in development by the start of the season, and they can gauge how much effort to put into 25 as the cards fall.

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Otromundo wrote:
11 Feb 2025, 01:54
I think it was a long time ago that Newey and Stroll Sr. started talking about important things. And that both reached logical agreements. The most normal thing is that Newey has something hidden for a long time that has not even been used in RB. And that will be effective. That's why Mr. Stroll will be happy to pay him a small mountain of money. It would be the logical deal between serious people. I can't imagine starting from zero-zero and going back to hit-miss trials with the money they are spending.

We will see. I would like it to be a "quirky" car but efficient as hell. Different from the others ... to change the situation and let the rest of the teams imitate us, copy us and break their minds trying.

I would like to see Fernando again with the best car but without internal intrigues. To see what happens.
i believe stroll started tentatively talking to newey over 3 years ago. i wonder how long ago stroll started building a race team specifically to what he knew would possibly lure newey to the team. they make it seem like it all came together just days before the newey announcement, but i wouldnt be surprised if they had a handshake deal way before that.

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Imagine sharing some clips of Lance drifting to people and telling them it's Alonso, Verstappen or someone highly rated. Then you ask them what do they think Lance Stroll would do in that situation. After they are done laughing you tell them it's actually Lance. It would be a fun social experiment. 90% won't have any clue and simply hate on him because they are jealous they weren't born into wealth.