2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[Sherrinford]

McLaren is fighting for the championship bypassing all this stuff of organizational structures. In 2023 with less technicians than now they were fighting for podiums. What do I mean?The structure is already there, now we need the performance, that's the truth.

McLaren under Andrea Stella revised their organizational structure. It probably is one of the reasons they are doing well now, they have an efficient structure that works. Cowell also saw some issues and is doing the same. I don't know what you are talking about.

McLaren had the presumption of winning already under Seidl and they were doing well, the structure has remained practically the same with the entry of some technicians. Aston Martin has everything to win he just has to put it on the field and that's it. I don't agree at all with the idea of organization and so on. Surely Cowell for me is putting things in order like Briatore did in Alpine, people put in the right place and with the right mentality. But the structure is already there, you don't have to create anything

[Sherrinford]

McLaren is fighting for the championship bypassing all this stuff of organizational structures. In 2023 with less technicians than now they were fighting for podiums. What do I mean?The structure is already there, now we need the performance, that's the truth.

McLaren under Andrea Stella revised their organizational structure. It probably is one of the reasons they are doing well now, they have an efficient structure that works. Cowell also saw some issues and is doing the same. I don't know what you are talking about.

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[Rikrikrik]

We need to focus on AM and 2025, 25 pages already and the most part of things are about 2026, Honda, engines, and mclaren or other teams, it has everything, excepting about 2025 and how will be this year.

[TyreSlip]

We need to focus on AM and 2025, 25 pages already and the most part of things are about 2026, Honda, engines, and mclaren or other teams, it has everything, excepting about 2025 and how will be this year.

I think most of us are too afraid to talk about how bad things will be in 2025, especially at launch.

[TyreSlip]

One thing I am happy about is those rumours dying of AM trying to oust Alonso for 2026, as if he was holding the team back.

[diffuser]

Aston Martin has signed 9 sponsors in the last 4 months. Maaden, Xerox, Glenfiddich, Pepperstone, ARM, Atlas Air, Elemis, Nike and Coinbase. Is there any reason why thez are adding so many sponsors to their list. From what I have heard, there is not that much to expect performacewise at the start of the season. Some sponsors like Coinbase are hzping up the partnership with words like: „a season to remeber “ or something

NEWEY !!!!!!

[Sherrinford]

Aston Martin has signed 9 sponsors in the last 4 months. Maaden, Xerox, Glenfiddich, Pepperstone, ARM, Atlas Air, Elemis, Nike and Coinbase. Is there any reason why thez are adding so many sponsors to their list. From what I have heard, there is not that much to expect performacewise at the start of the season. Some sponsors like Coinbase are hzping up the partnership with words like: „a season to remeber “ or something

NEWEY !!!!!!

At the presentation of the car we will understand many things, from there we can already understand the trend

[SSJ4]

As long as the team shows they can actually upgrade the car during the season and show good correlation with windtunnel and simulator
That will suffice for me. consolidate 5th place in constructors, anything higher would be a bonus

[Sherrinford]

As long as the team shows they can actually upgrade the car during the season and show good correlation with windtunnel and simulator
That will suffice for me. consolidate 5th place in constructors, anything higher would be a bonus

The same speeches I heard in another blue team. From experience, honestly, these reasonings are useless and only lead to defeats. In 2023 I remember well how almost all the fans said that Mercedes Redbull and Ferrari were on another level compared to the others, so they could fight for the maximum 4th place. Bam, Aston Martin and then McLaren destroyed this theory. Who thought McLaren was fighting for the world championship? I bet you were saying the same thing, happy with 4th place, then the year after for 3rd place etc. It doesn't work like that, F1 is not a mathematical game, you have to win right away, who tells you that Newey will leave the team tomorrow? Who tells you that Aston Martin won't be first force tomorrow? So enough, even Cowell said something similar: why can't we be McLaren? Why? Enough with these low ranking goals , I'm not happy about a 5 seater and neither are Alonso and those from Aston Martin, believe me

[RedNEO]

^^ True. Under Cowell AM no longer has a loser mentality of aiming for 5th place every season. Thats the old way of doing things! AM as Cowell said has to aim for glory every year otherwise what’s the point? it’s insane to aim for anything less with the people and facilities they have now. Go for broke!

[diffuser]

The pictures of the Williams FW47 at Silverstone shows a rear pull rod. I Guess the finally made the jump ....Wonder if they're using Merc 2024 or 2025 rear suspension? For the obvious implications for AM F1.

[TyreSlip]

It will be interesting to see if the FW47 eats up tyres.

[diffuser]

It will be interesting to see if the FW47 eats up tyres.

The article does say they've been constantly over weight .... That is gonna hurt that.

[Seanspeed]

The same speeches I heard in another blue team. From experience, honestly, these reasonings are useless and only lead to defeats. In 2023 I remember well how almost all the fans said that Mercedes Redbull and Ferrari were on another level compared to the others, so they could fight for the maximum 4th place. Bam, Aston Martin and then McLaren destroyed this theory. Who thought McLaren was fighting for the world championship? I bet you were saying the same thing, happy with 4th place, then the year after for 3rd place etc. It doesn't work like that, F1 is not a mathematical game, you have to win right away, who tells you that Newey will leave the team tomorrow? Who tells you that Aston Martin won't be first force tomorrow? So enough, even Cowell said something similar: why can't we be McLaren? Why? Enough with these low ranking goals , I'm not happy about a 5 seater and neither are Alonso and those from Aston Martin, believe me

Why doesn't every team simply aim to be three seconds faster than everybody else?

Dreaming big only matters so much. At the end of the day, reality is sobering and matters a lot more. Having a *realistic* plan to use 2025 as a springboard for greater things makes a ton of sense, and there's no shame in accepting that AM is not going to be a championship contender right away.

Thinking otherwise is both delusional, disrespects the level of competition, and only leads to disappointment and bitterness when such super lofty goals inevitably fail to materialize. Most all great rags-to-riches stories in sport come from building up an organization over time, not overnight, miraculous success.

[diffuser]

The same speeches I heard in another blue team. From experience, honestly, these reasonings are useless and only lead to defeats. In 2023 I remember well how almost all the fans said that Mercedes Redbull and Ferrari were on another level compared to the others, so they could fight for the maximum 4th place. Bam, Aston Martin and then McLaren destroyed this theory. Who thought McLaren was fighting for the world championship? I bet you were saying the same thing, happy with 4th place, then the year after for 3rd place etc. It doesn't work like that, F1 is not a mathematical game, you have to win right away, who tells you that Newey will leave the team tomorrow? Who tells you that Aston Martin won't be first force tomorrow? So enough, even Cowell said something similar: why can't we be McLaren? Why? Enough with these low ranking goals , I'm not happy about a 5 seater and neither are Alonso and those from Aston Martin, believe me

Why doesn't every team simply aim to be three seconds faster than everybody else?

Dreaming big only matters so much. At the end of the day, reality is sobering and matters a lot more. Having a *realistic* plan to use 2025 as a springboard for greater things makes a ton of sense, and there's no shame in accepting that AM is not going to be a championship contender right away.

Thinking otherwise is both delusional, disrespects the level of competition, and only leads to disappointment and bitterness when such super lofty goals inevitably fail to materialize. Most all great rags-to-riches stories in sport come from building up an organization over time, not overnight, miraculous success.

I don't think anyone thinks in terms of seconds faster. They're always thinking in terms of efficiency and amount of down force. How do we make this better? How/where can we improve? You never really know how much better it's gonna be till you put it in the simulator and then on the track.