2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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JPower wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:16
CjC wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:05
deadhead wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:00
People like to say hype train but I don’t even know what to call this now
Crazy train?

Two out of ten 2025 cars have broken their covers but Ferrari are now going to win one of the two titles.
What will happen if Verstappen is on pole by 4 tenths in Australia? :lol:
Five out of 10(McLaren/Williams/Haas/Ferrari/VCARB).
Yea sorry I forgot about those :lol:
To be honest with you I had no idea that VCARB had though
Just a fan's point of view

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DJ Downforce wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:14
Lewis who is known to be a pessimist can't stop smiling and says he gets on well with the car.

I will never have excitement until Australia :wink: :wink: :) :D :D :D :D
Disagree. Lewis is mostly known as a optimist. And ngl, that positivity has been annoying at times while at MER for years. But in recent times (at MER) he did show uncharacteristic pessimism at times, but more often than not it was more to downplay the situation to then reveal he/team were better than were advertised e.g. Las Vegas '24 where he was the fastest man on track setting purple-purple-purple all race long on old tyres coming pretty darn close to winning the race, but downplayed his chances the night before. More often than not, if he was acting uncharacteristically pessimistic the one day, it usually ends up he is an absolute beast the following day. At least historically.

If you want real pessimist you only need to look at Lando Norris. He is and always has been all about doom & gloom.

Leclerc always comes off mostly looking saddened, gutted, and in emotional pain -- wears it on his sleeve -- when things don't go well for him. Despite the words that come, his body language always betrays him.

I am hoping this year will be positive for FER as a team.

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zeroday wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 23:21
DJ Downforce wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:14
Lewis who is known to be a pessimist can't stop smiling and says he gets on well with the car.

I will never have excitement until Australia :wink: :wink: :) :D :D :D :D
Disagree. Lewis is mostly known as a optimist. And ngl, that positivity has been annoying at times while at MER for years. But in recent times (at MER) he did show uncharacteristic pessimism at times, but more often than not it was more to downplay the situation to then reveal he/team were better than were advertised e.g. Las Vegas '24 where he was the fastest man on track setting purple-purple-purple all race long on old tyres coming pretty darn close to winning the race, but downplayed his chances the night before. More often than not, if he was acting uncharacteristically pessimistic the one day, it usually ends up he is an absolute beast the following day. At least historically.

If you want real pessimist you only need to look at Lando Norris. He is and always has been all about doom & gloom.

Leclerc always comes off mostly looking saddened, gutted, and in emotional pain -- wears it on his sleeve -- when things don't go well for him. Despite the words that come, his body language always betrays him.

I am hoping this year will be positive for FER as a team.
That's not acting, Mercedes didn't know why the car performed well there, every good performance they had they didn't understand why
He tries to stay positive even when the team was against him

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Does anyone know what was Lewis's best time today? I only saw data for Charles.

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continuum16 wrote:
18 Feb 2025, 19:27
The true test will be whether or not Gary Anderson is disappointed; if so then there is a good chance of success :lol:
He doesn't seem disappointed :)

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/99-p ... n-verdict/

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zeroday wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 23:21
DJ Downforce wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:14
Lewis who is known to be a pessimist can't stop smiling and says he gets on well with the car.

I will never have excitement until Australia :wink: :wink: :) :D :D :D :D
Disagree. Lewis is mostly known as a optimist. And ngl, that positivity has been annoying at times while at MER for years. But in recent times (at MER) he did show uncharacteristic pessimism at times, but more often than not it was more to downplay the situation to then reveal he/team were better than were advertised e.g. Las Vegas '24 where he was the fastest man on track setting purple-purple-purple all race long on old tyres coming pretty darn close to winning the race, but downplayed his chances the night before. More often than not, if he was acting uncharacteristically pessimistic the one day, it usually ends up he is an absolute beast the following day. At least historically.

If you want real pessimist you only need to look at Lando Norris. He is and always has been all about doom & gloom.

Leclerc always comes off mostly looking saddened, gutted, and in emotional pain -- wears it on his sleeve -- when things don't go well for him. Despite the words that come, his body language always betrays him.

I am hoping this year will be positive for FER as a team.
I guess so - but I think all the smiles suggest it's a nicely balanced car.

And Charles seems happy and was even bold enough to say he would be disappointed if they didn't win at least one of the two trophies on offer.

Let's see though - Bahrain testing next week is gonna answer a lot of questions and should allow us to judge the Sf25's pace and balance in relation to the others.

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KimiRai wrote:
continuum16 wrote:
18 Feb 2025, 19:27
The true test will be whether or not Gary Anderson is disappointed; if so then there is a good chance of success :lol:
He doesn't seem disappointed :)

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/99-p ... n-verdict/
All of my optimism vanished right here.

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According to the author of this video, which seems to be trustworthy when it comes to having contacts in and around Ferrari:

- Shakedown has gone really well overall, if you consider lap times, lack of problems and how satisfied the two drivers looked. These facts can't be denied, according to the video's author. Still, until there is a direct comparison with other teams, it is better not to get hyped.
- There was a little problem that caused a 30 minutes stop (video's author didn't specify what it was), but once resolved both drivers completed the program without other problems.
- As far as drivability goes, the car looked good (to the eyes of the author of this video, who is a racing instructor).

- They tried a lot of different setups. On a certain lap, you can see the car understeer. On a different lap, you can see it oversteer. Those outcomes were caused by them trying out setups at different extremes.
- When the car was creating a lot of sparks, that was the consequence of using a setup that was both low and soft. That was used to try and test if it would result in porpoising, which didn't happen.

- Lap times were great. Both drivers consistently ran below 0:57:000 (track record is 0:55.999, set 20 years ago by the F2004).

- Leclerc's program was a little bit more extreme than Hamilton's. Hamilton's program was more conventional.
- Leclerc stint 1 and 2: done with a balanced car. Lap times were already good by lap 7.
- Leclerc stint 3: extreme setup that caused understeer.
- Leclerc stint 4: extreme setup in the opposite direction. This caused oversteer.
- Leclerc stint 5: done with a balanced car again. Comprised of a series of out lap/push lap/cooldown lap.
This is where Leclerc set his best time: 0:56:060.

- Hamilton was fast from the get-go and looked at ease with the car. The author of the video knows Hamilton's times, but doesn't want to reveal them to avoid comparisons with Leclerc (doesn't want to cause drama I guess, might have been requested by his contacts telling him the times). Even so, he implies Hamilton was running consistently around 0:56:400 (that's my guess based on his words, might be wrong).
- Hamilton apparently tested with more fuel compared to Leclerc.
- Apparently, both drivers have a driving style that goes in the same direction. They want the same things from the car (might imply that this wasn't the case with Leclerc/Sainz, but maybe not).

Lots of information that I don't think you can find anywhere else, if you can leave a like to his video!

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LurkingMostly wrote:
20 Feb 2025, 03:10
According to the author of this video, which seems to be trustworthy when it comes to having contacts in and around Ferrari:

- Shakedown has gone really well overall, if you consider lap times, lack of problems and how satisfied the two drivers looked. These facts can't be denied, according to the video's author. Still, until there is a direct comparison with other teams, it is better not to get hyped.
- There was a little problem that caused a 30 minutes stop (video's author didn't specify what it was), but once resolved both drivers completed the program without other problems.
- As far as drivability goes, the car looked good (to the eyes of the author of this video, who is a racing instructor).

- They tried a lot of different setups. On a certain lap, you can see the car understeer. On a different lap, you can see it oversteer. Those outcomes were caused by them trying out setups at different extremes.
- When the car was creating a lot of sparks, that was the consequence of using a setup that was both low and soft. That was used to try and test if it would result in porpoising, which didn't happen.

- Lap times were great. Both drivers consistently ran below 0:57:000 (track record is 0:55.999, set 20 years ago by the F2004).

- Leclerc's program was a little bit more extreme than Hamilton's. Hamilton's program was more conventional.
- Leclerc stint 1 and 2: done with a balanced car. Lap times were already good by lap 7.
- Leclerc stint 3: extreme setup that caused understeer.
- Leclerc stint 4: extreme setup in the opposite direction. This caused oversteer.
- Leclerc stint 5: done with a balanced car again. Comprised of a series of out lap/push lap/cooldown lap.
This is where Leclerc set his best time: 0:56:060.

- Hamilton was fast from the get-go and looked at ease with the car. The author of the video knows Hamilton's times, but doesn't want to reveal them to avoid comparisons with Leclerc (doesn't want to cause drama I guess, might have been requested by his contacts telling him the times). Even so, he implies Hamilton was running consistently around 0:56:400 (that's my guess based on his words, might be wrong).
- Hamilton apparently tested with more fuel compared to Leclerc.
- Apparently, both drivers have a driving style that goes in the same direction. They want the same things from the car (might imply that this wasn't the case with Leclerc/Sainz, but maybe not).

Lots of information that I don't think you can find anywhere else, if you can leave a like to his video!
one of the most interesting posts in a while. thank you for this summary.

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Very interesting and positive on all counts. From my rose tinted perspective it feels like Ferrari have clarity in their physiology. To me it looks like Vasseur is pointing the ship in the right direction with valor. It reminds me of Mercedes when Niki Lauda RIP was still with us. Would it be too early for any ex Mercedes employees to have any contribution to this year's car?

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ClarkBT11 wrote:
20 Feb 2025, 06:03
Very interesting and positive on all counts. From my rose tinted perspective it feels like Ferrari have clarity in their physiology. To me it looks like Vasseur is pointing the ship in the right direction with valor. It reminds me of Mercedes when Niki Lauda RIP was still with us. Would it be too early for any ex Mercedes employees to have any contribution to this year's car?
I think the new technical director certainly had some input

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zeroday wrote:
20 Feb 2025, 05:44

According to the author of this video, which seems to be trustworthy when it comes to having contacts in and around Ferrari:

- Shakedown has gone really well overall, if you consider lap times, lack of problems and how satisfied the two drivers looked. These facts can't be denied, according to the video's author. Still, until there is a direct comparison with other teams, it is better not to get hyped.
- There was a little problem that caused a 30 minutes stop (video's author didn't specify what it was), but once resolved both drivers completed the program without other problems.
- As far as drivability goes, the car looked good (to the eyes of the author of this video, who is a racing instructor).

- They tried a lot of different setups. On a certain lap, you can see the car understeer. On a different lap, you can see it oversteer. Those outcomes were caused by them trying out setups at different extremes.
- When the car was creating a lot of sparks, that was the consequence of using a setup that was both low and soft. That was used to try and test if it would result in porpoising, which didn't happen.

- Lap times were great. Both drivers consistently ran below 0:57:000 (track record is 0:55.999, set 20 years ago by the F2004).

- Leclerc's program was a little bit more extreme than Hamilton's. Hamilton's program was more conventional.
- Leclerc stint 1 and 2: done with a balanced car. Lap times were already good by lap 7.
- Leclerc stint 3: extreme setup that caused understeer.
- Leclerc stint 4: extreme setup in the opposite direction. This caused oversteer.
- Leclerc stint 5: done with a balanced car again. Comprised of a series of out lap/push lap/cooldown lap.
This is where Leclerc set his best time: 0:56:060.

- Hamilton was fast from the get-go and looked at ease with the car. The author of the video knows Hamilton's times, but doesn't want to reveal them to avoid comparisons with Leclerc (doesn't want to cause drama I guess, might have been requested by his contacts telling him the times). Even so, he implies Hamilton was running consistently around 0:56:400 (that's my guess based on his words, might be wrong).
- Hamilton apparently tested with more fuel compared to Leclerc.
- Apparently, both drivers have a driving style that goes in the same direction. They want the same things from the car (might imply that this wasn't the case with Leclerc/Sainz, but maybe not).

Lots of information that I don't think you can find anywhere else, if you can leave a like to his video!
If they really are running it low and soft without the porpoising that's pretty big news

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Luscion wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:12
CjC wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:05
deadhead wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:00
People like to say hype train but I don’t even know what to call this now
Crazy train?

Two out of ten 2025 cars have broken their covers but Ferrari are now going to win one of the two titles.
What will happen if Verstappen is on pole by 4 tenths in Australia? :lol:
Nobody has even said that, Charles said he'd be disappointed if they didnt and people are surprised he's that confident
It's not confidence, he's simply stating very obvious expectations for the year. They ended up 2nd fastest by the end of last season, and showed a strong ability to maximize what they had and gain strong point overhauls and even be fastest car on a few occasions, putting them within extremely close distance of the WCC. Of course a title is the logical expectation for this year. That's the whole point of this.

They will not yet know whether they've broken through the extra handful of tenths and resolve a few characteristic issues needed to match/beat an upgraded Mclaren, so there is nothing to say about the car's actual competitiveness yet.

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CjC wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 22:05

What will happen if Verstappen is on pole by 4 tenths in Australia? :lol:
People will say that Albert Park is a unique track that doesn't reflect the rest of the season etc etc 😂 😂
"From success, you learn absolutely nothing. From failure and setbacks, conclusions can be drawn." - Niki Lauda

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LurkingMostly wrote:
20 Feb 2025, 03:10
According to the author of this video, which seems to be trustworthy when it comes to having contacts in and around Ferrari:

- Shakedown has gone really well overall, if you consider lap times, lack of problems and how satisfied the two drivers looked. These facts can't be denied, according to the video's author. Still, until there is a direct comparison with other teams, it is better not to get hyped.
- There was a little problem that caused a 30 minutes stop (video's author didn't specify what it was), but once resolved both drivers completed the program without other problems.
- As far as drivability goes, the car looked good (to the eyes of the author of this video, who is a racing instructor).

- They tried a lot of different setups. On a certain lap, you can see the car understeer. On a different lap, you can see it oversteer. Those outcomes were caused by them trying out setups at different extremes.
- When the car was creating a lot of sparks, that was the consequence of using a setup that was both low and soft. That was used to try and test if it would result in porpoising, which didn't happen.

- Lap times were great. Both drivers consistently ran below 0:57:000 (track record is 0:55.999, set 20 years ago by the F2004).

- Leclerc's program was a little bit more extreme than Hamilton's. Hamilton's program was more conventional.
- Leclerc stint 1 and 2: done with a balanced car. Lap times were already good by lap 7.
- Leclerc stint 3: extreme setup that caused understeer.
- Leclerc stint 4: extreme setup in the opposite direction. This caused oversteer.
- Leclerc stint 5: done with a balanced car again. Comprised of a series of out lap/push lap/cooldown lap.
This is where Leclerc set his best time: 0:56:060.

- Hamilton was fast from the get-go and looked at ease with the car. The author of the video knows Hamilton's times, but doesn't want to reveal them to avoid comparisons with Leclerc (doesn't want to cause drama I guess, might have been requested by his contacts telling him the times). Even so, he implies Hamilton was running consistently around 0:56:400 (that's my guess based on his words, might be wrong).
- Hamilton apparently tested with more fuel compared to Leclerc.
- Apparently, both drivers have a driving style that goes in the same direction. They want the same things from the car (might imply that this wasn't the case with Leclerc/Sainz, but maybe not).

Lots of information that I don't think you can find anywhere else, if you can leave a like to his video!
Thanks for summry, awesome to hear... all we can do is pray [-o<