2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[RedNEO]

People need to relax. We’ve not even had a race yet and people already have their crystal balls out for the following year.

[KimiRai]

Fernando will have an extra as always but have to agree Strolls long runs so far have been atrocious.

[RedNEO]

McLaren race pace sensational, all laps where they drop with the times and 0 degradation. Aston can't do three consecutive laps without rising with the times. Well guys get ready to cheer for the 9 and 10 place every race, sometimes more due to the demerit of others. Speechless

Did you expect us to be able to compete for wins this season on merit? The regs are exactly the same, going to be hard to completely transform our car to compete with the big 4.

Nothing is impossible. With Newey starting on Monday we could be just one big update away from making up that gap later in the year. I’m not saying it’s going to definitely happen but we have evidence of McLaren doing exactly that when everyone said Red Bull couldn’t be caught.

[Alo_Fan]

McLaren race pace sensational, all laps where they drop with the times and 0 degradation. Aston can't do three consecutive laps without rising with the times. Well guys get ready to cheer for the 9 and 10 place every race, sometimes more due to the demerit of others. Speechless

Did you expect us to be able to compete for wins this season on merit? The regs are exactly the same, going to be hard to completely transform our car to compete with the big 4.

Nothing is impossible. With Newey starting on Monday we could be just an update away to making up that gap later in the year. I’m not saying it’s going to happen but we have evidence of McLaren doing exactly that when everyone said Red Bull could be caught.

That's true, but I would preface that with the fact that we'll probably quickly focus our attention on 2026.

[nowaysthatsreal]

Too early to say anything, more than the pace the correlation between track n tunnel is important. Does not matter where they start. As long it’s easy to drive and good sync with tunnel, it’s good!!

[RedNEO]

Did you expect us to be able to compete for wins this season on merit? The regs are exactly the same, going to be hard to completely transform our car to compete with the big 4.

Nothing is impossible. With Newey starting on Monday we could be just an update away to making up that gap later in the year. I’m not saying it’s going to happen but we have evidence of McLaren doing exactly that when everyone said Red Bull could be caught.

That's true, but I would preface that with the fact that we'll probably quickly focus our attention on 2026.

Hmm I think we’ll bring a couple of substantial updates regardless of where we actually start. It’s important to give our team confidence going into next year that what they are doing actually works with the new tunnel and tools.

[continuum16]

McLaren race pace sensational, all laps where they drop with the times and 0 degradation. Aston can't do three consecutive laps without rising with the times. Well guys get ready to cheer for the 9 and 10 place every race, sometimes more due to the demerit of others. Speechless

Did you expect us to be able to compete for wins this season on merit? The regs are exactly the same, going to be hard to completely transform our car to compete with the big 4.

Nothing is impossible. With Newey starting on Monday we could be just an update away to making up that gap later in the year. I’m not saying it’s going to happen but we have evidence of McLaren doing exactly that when everyone said Red Bull could be caught.

Correct; nothing is impossible. But it took McLaren from pre-season '23 until mid-season '24 (15-18 months) to actually make the turn around from Q1 exit-er to consistent podiums and wins. And that was unprecedented in modern times. Aston is coming from the same place but doesn't have 3 years of stable regulations ahead of them to make up the difference.

I am interested to see if/when Newey will be able to get rid of Lance. He is a good technical mind obviously but is also experienced and interested in the operations side as well. I can't imagine him or anyone of true top level talent actually being able to accept the complacency and inconsistency of Stroll Jr. No matter the money.

[RedNEO]

Did you expect us to be able to compete for wins this season on merit? The regs are exactly the same, going to be hard to completely transform our car to compete with the big 4.

Nothing is impossible. With Newey starting on Monday we could be just an update away to making up that gap later in the year. I’m not saying it’s going to happen but we have evidence of McLaren doing exactly that when everyone said Red Bull could be caught.

Correct; nothing is impossible. But it took McLaren from pre-season '23 until mid-season '24 (15-18 months) to actually make the turn around from Q1 exit-er to consistent podiums and wins. And that was unprecedented in modern times. Aston is coming from the same place but doesn't have 3 years of stable regulations ahead of them to make up the difference.

I am interested to see if/when Newey will be able to get rid of Lance. He is a good technical mind obviously but is also experienced and interested in the operations side as well. I can't imagine him or anyone of true top level talent actually being able to accept the complacency and inconsistency of Stroll Jr. No matter the money.

We have Newey, Cowell and a new wind tunnel. Nothing is impossible.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

People need to relax. We’ve not even had a race yet and people already have their crystal balls out for the following year.

They didn't even went a single quali lap! Their long runs also was half sec slower than the Sauber,so nobody believe,that Aston slower at race place half sec than the Kik Sauber! AMR24 car was slow,but they still could run at qualification 1:29.5. so calm down!

[RedNEO]

Aston Martin expect immediate benefit from Newey's arrival

https://www.reuters.com/resizer/v2/XSKY ... quality=80

(Reuters) - Artificial intelligence is no substitute for the mind of Adrian Newey and Aston Martin expect Formula One's foremost designer to have an immediate impact when he joins them next month, according to team boss Andy Cowell.

Speaking before the team's digital 2025 car launch on Sunday, Cowell said Newey's arrival from Red Bull was "just brilliant".

"He's one of the few engineers that can bridge across aerodynamics, vehicle dynamics and the data logger that is the driver," he added.

"He can communicate well with the driver and pull out the comments that the telemetry perhaps isn't showing and can bring that back into the factory on campus and help us chase the thing that will deliver the best lap time improvement.

"I think we'll feel the benefit of him in the opening days," added Cowell. "I'm sure he's frustrated with not working on a Formula One car at the moment, especially as there are new regulations out.

"And I'm sure he will be coming up with observations pertinent to the car concept, and also in terms of the tools, in terms of the fidelity of our tools and equipment, and his thoughts on where we should make improvements."

Newey's move was announced last September and the 65-year-old Briton, whose cars have won 25 drivers' and constructors' championships for Williams, McLaren and Red Bull, has been on gardening leave with no input in the AMR25.

He is due to start at the Silverstone factory after pre-season testing in Bahrain ends on February 28, with the opening race in Melbourne on March 16.

Aston Martin, with Spain's double world champion Fernando Alonso and Canadian Lance Stroll, finished fifth overall last season.

"Human creativity is hard to quantify, isn't it?," said Cowell, when asked where Newey's 'magic' lay. "There's the threat of AI coming in and taking over from human creativity, but I think AI is a tool that helps human creativity.

"So I think individuals like Adrian, he's got a broad perspective and the determination to chase down beliefs in performance, and I believe that's what he will add."

Asked whether it would be fair to say that AI would never be a substitute for Newey, Cowell replied: "You can probably make it broader than that, can't you? It's not just Adrian."

Cowell also had plenty of praise for Alonso, still hungry for success at the age of 43 and more than 10 years on from his last win.

"We're lucky that we've got both Fernando and Lance on long-term contracts. And that's not a problem at the moment," he said.

"Our challenge is coming up with a fast race car and giving it to both of them to do well. And age is a number. Fernando is a phenomenal individual today and he's very welcome in our team.

"Fernando's experiences and feedback are amazing. His feedback from the simulator, exceptionally good," added the boss, who took over from Mike Krack last month and reports to owner Lawrence Stroll, Lance's father.
Cowell said the team had set no time frame for success and would not be cutting any corners, with a new wind tunnel now in the "commissioning phase" but no date set for it to become operational.

"We have confidence that if our improvement rate is steep, and is steeper than our opponents, then we will catch them, we will get to the front," he said.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/formula1 ... 025-02-23/

Just going to post this for anyone who missed it. Cowell expects Neweys impact to felt in days of joining. Newey has requested a bed for his office so he doesn’t have to worry about travelling home to sleep.

[KimiRai]

Their long runs also was half sec slower than the Sauber,so nobody believe,that Aston slower at race place half sec than the Kik Sauber!

that would be funny not going to lie. Lawrence would sell the entire team if that happened

[RedNEO]

People need to relax. We’ve not even had a race yet and people already have their crystal balls out for the following year.

They didn't even went a single quali lap! Their long runs also was half sec slower than the Sauber,so nobody believe,that Aston slower at race place half sec than the Kik Sauber! AMR24 car was slow,but they still could run at qualification 1:29.5. so calm down!

I think the base car is fine thats why Aston seem content with just getting on with data collection. I believe they are mainly testing collaboration of new simulator and correlation of new tunnel. They need everything ready for Newey on Monday.

[TyreSlip]

Does anyone have a link to a table of race pace laps between Stroll and other cars?

[GoranF1]

The only positive so far is that all track side observers say car looks good in corners.

[zoroastar]

McLaren race pace sensational, all laps where they drop with the times and 0 degradation. Aston can't do three consecutive laps without rising with the times. Well guys get ready to cheer for the 9 and 10 place every race, sometimes more due to the demerit of others. Speechless

god man have you not payed attention to anything that they have been doing over the last 2 years? they have spent 100s of millions to upgrade everything about the team but are just now getting to the point where it can make a difference. they spent the last 4 months stating that their objective is to build a car that is easier to drive and to develop over a season. and they obviously have been experimenting a lot so far in these tests, but its too early to know if they have failed at that. you had them doomed from the first time you saw that they didnt change to pullrod suspension haha. if you cant be a little positive that they have the greatest car designer in the history of the sport starting in less than a week, then idk what to tell you. things are going to get better over this season, why drown this place in negativity before testing has even ended. lets see how things go before we jump to conclusions