2025 McLaren F1 Team

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this was what i was hoping, if the longrun was indeed so strong, competitors will start to comment on, and the first one is here
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That qoute is from Toto wednesday

Mercedes boss Toto Wolff after testing day 2:
"Norris was on a different planet [today]"

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f1rules wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:26
this was what i was hoping, if the longrun was indeed so strong, competitors will start to comment on, and the first one is here
EDIT
That qoute is from Toto wednesday

Mercedes boss Toto Wolff after testing day 2:
"Norris was on a different planet [today]"
Yep, regarding your edit, this is the source (or one of them):
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/616399 ... erstappen/
"Mercedes F1 chief Toto Wolff said Norris was “on a different planet” on Wednesday"

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Yeah, i changed the original post, im sure his mood is no better today, as landos longrun just confirmed his comment
McLarenMor wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:36
f1rules wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:26
this was what i was hoping, if the longrun was indeed so strong, competitors will start to comment on, and the first one is here
EDIT
That qoute is from Toto wednesday

Mercedes boss Toto Wolff after testing day 2:
"Norris was on a different planet [today]"
Yep, regarding your edit, this is the source (or one of them):
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/616399 ... erstappen/
"Mercedes F1 chief Toto Wolff said Norris was “on a different planet” on Wednesday"

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Honestly, that second stint is the most impressive here. Inferior tire, car still relatively heavy, yet he still was 0.3s up on Leclerc on average.
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Looks exciting but I won't buy into it just yet.

Toto knows the game and how to play down expectations, though it does seem like we may be competing from the very start this year.

I'm still curious for the innovations. Are these the parts that crossover into next years regs?
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mwillems wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 21:02
Looks exciting but I won't buy into it just yet.

Toto knows the game and how to play down expectations, though it does seem like we may be competing from the very start this year.

I'm still curious for the innovations. Are these the parts that crossover into next years regs?
People are misquoting. Toto said that about yesterday where arguably there were less reasons to be impressed by McLaren. I wonder what he had to say about them today.
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Stella did say that he sees this car as on the same improvement trajectory as their upgrades in 2023 and 2024 (which were massive relatively).

Probably the gap is not as big as it seems today but at least we can be sure that the car will be in the fight. That is all that I can wish for.

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https://www.formula1.com/en/video/lando ... 2907289289

Could Lando's smile be any bigger at all?! #reactionsanalysis

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Macklaren wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 21:19
https://www.formula1.com/en/video/lando ... 2907289289

Could Lando's smile be any bigger at all?! #reactionsanalysis
This was in the morning, but yes. :D

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I always think Mark has a few good nuggets of information- like how Lando went purple in the middle sector doing pitstop practice which I missed.

However, what data was he looking at to have Lando slower than Leclerc AND Antonelli in the second stint?

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark ... -analysis/
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 21:29
I always think Mark has a few good nuggets of information- like how Lando went purple in the middle sector doing pitstop practice which I missed.

However, what data was he looking at to have Lando slower than Leclerc AND Antonelli in the second stint?

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark ... -analysis/
He made multiple mistakes. NOR ran C2 in his final stint - opposite of what he is saying. It is also likely he made a wrong copy/paste for the laptime of Stint 1 and 2 for Norris as the times listed are identical.

NOR also had much more than 12 second advantage over race distance as NOR had about 0.5s per lap for 57 laps. The fact that he made a whole article based on wrong initial data is quite annoying. It is also a warning about quality of these articles, they tend to extrapolate from a few datapoints which are here clearly wrong. Anyone who watched the session could see that Norris was in 34s during his second stint.

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CjC wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 21:29
I always think Mark has a few good nuggets of information- like how Lando went purple in the middle sector doing pitstop practice which I missed.

However, what data was he looking at to have Lando slower than Leclerc AND Antonelli in the second stint?

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark ... -analysis/
Incredible. This is what passes for top tier journalism in this sport? There were fans in this forum keeping track lap by lap who gave a better overview of the data than this excuse of an article.
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That’s what I thought @Emag and @fittingmechanics
Just a fan's point of view

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Mark is not a serious journalist when it comes to analysing numbers, this has been a problem for years. Usually his numbers show it's close, even when it isn't. Just baiting for clicks trying to pander to every denomination of fan.