2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:58
Another year, another lovely thread :)
Give us your take Vanja!

Yes we go through the motions every year and it’s always good times when we finally get racing

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Macklaren wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:27
Last year at Merc HAM was often subject to extreme setup testing which many thought was the team trying to sabotage him. However, seems like that may be his preferred method being carried over to Ferrari? In any case, seems like something def went wrong with the race sim. Maybe his times were bad because of whatever problem caused them to end running early?
Err we just witnessed 3 days of testing where you are supposed to find the limits of the machine

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Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:58
Another year, another lovely thread :)
...and nasty car. According to my sources from GeS they are working on B spec to bring in Melburne.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Tell you what. We'll take the nasty SF-25 car off your hands and trade you the AMR25... deal?

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Vasseur seems happy with how testing went -

Honestly, I think it’s too preliminary a phase, also because the conditions here in Bahrain for once were so extreme that it becomes difficult to have a clear picture of the situation . If we take it session by session, the situation changes a lot, as well as from day to day. Then it depends on the fuel load, clearly we know ours, but we don’t know the others’ and so it becomes very difficult to interpret everything. We are concentrating on ourselves, we had said the same thing even before coming to Bahrain. We have to stay focused on what we are doing and on the new balance , our numbers and not think about the others. Then we will see how it goes .
We have opened a new door for development , because after a couple of years there was a need to differentiate something and I think everyone has done it a bit. So far it's working well. I'm not talking in terms of results, but numbers . Everything is going in the right direction, but honestly it's always too early after the Bahrain test. If we look at the hierarchy of previous years, that hierarchy we saw here was not the same as the qualifying held a week later in the same conditions .”
Vasseur is satisfied with both Hamilton’s progress and the car’s responses, the only aspects on which he wants to evaluate what he saw in these tests at the moment: “ Honestly, he did a good job, but we have no idea of ​​the pace. As I said, we know the fuel level we have in the car, we know the engine mapping, but we don’t know what the others did. You can speculate, you can make a lot of conjectures , but if we look at the first session, if I’m not mistaken, Verstappen was a second faster than the previous year, then things changed, so you can only speculate and we have to focus on ourselves. The numbers we found are the same as we expected . So if that’s the case, I trust the guys, the good feelings we have about the car .”
https://autoracer.it/it/vasseur-ferrari ... st-bahrain
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The hope is that the problem they encountered is something like what happened with the SF 71H which had a tremendous base but there was a small issue with the floor that limited the performance during testing and in the first race.

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FDD wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:40
Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:58
Another year, another lovely thread :)
...and nasty car. According to my sources from GeS they are working on B spec to bring in Melburne.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I doubt we will see any "B-specs" from teams this season. It's just too expensive when nothing carries through to 2026. Besides, SF-25 is already a thoroughly upgraded car from SF-24. I can't see anything major arriving until later in the season, not before round 1.

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Biggest issue I see right now is what Charles touched upon, balance. The front got a lot stronger than the rear now and they are looking for ways to set the car up.

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I'm disappointed today. :( The car's behaviour didn't look too pleasant for both drivers today. The fact that Hamilton had to literally stop his programme due to the extreme degradation is disappointing. On top of the rain the other day, it's not good that he didn't get the maximum running possible. :oops:

What's encouraging is that the car does have the balance in some instances. :D The next two weeks need to be focused on finding that window and investigating the possible ways of keeping the car close to it. =D>

Let's hope we don't have an RB20 or W13 situation where it works well under specific circumstances. #-o

I don't think predicting where we are relative to the completion is at all possible or useful right now. Heads down for the next two weeks whilst the team hopefully use the data collected to understand the car's new suspension and how it interacts with the aero and tyres :wink:

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Some optimism from Federico


In the end, #Leclerc's words confirm what we were saying yesterday. The #SF25 definitely has potential to unlock, and they are seeing the expected levels of downforce. However, what is currently missing is balance. This is evident in the rear, which does not follow properly and struggles with traction, while the front has become almost too precise and reactive. The car is not well-balanced between the axles, and this greatly affects the driving.

There is work to be done to find the right setup and extract the car’s potential, which is likely high, as whenever they manage to achieve moments of balance, the performance is immediately excellent. So, let’s see if they can sort it out and how they will do it.

Between a car with a weak rear and one with a weak front by design, personally, I would choose the weak rear, because I believe it is easier to correct compared to a front end that simply refuses to turn. Let’s see how #Ferrari adjusts things for Melbourne.

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Some flashbacks with Vettel and the SF7H, then sometimes the rear part of the SF71H sometimes walked and how many donuts Vettel made in the races, the style of the SF71H did not suit him, but it was fast and very good

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In Ferrari's report for the day, they said they found an anomaly in Lewis's telemetry and ended the day early as a precaution.

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None of the team or drivers are speaking or driving with confidence and since this was day 3, this was the day to bring the car together for a solid race sim to walk into Albert Park with some consistency and confidence. The car didn't even need to necessarily be the fastest, but at the very least offer some consistency and confidence to the team and drivers to immediately build upon, and that most certainly did not happen.

This, this was the year to start strong as the sharp end is closer than we have seen for some time, and the dude that captures big points right from the first race is extremely hard to catch the rest of the season and especially in teams that are not single driver obscessed. We saw this last year and other years. With Ferrari being forced to split all points for the first half or likely more of the season between two drivers that will not compromise themselves for the sake of their team or teammate till it's far, far too late...automatically compromises the entire Ferrari ethos while bleeding dysfunction directly into 2026. It's the exact kinda stuff I pointed out the day Lewis signed over a year ago now. Plus, with the new regs coming in 2026, and limited focus/money this year due to huge coming changes in 26, the need for a solid and consistent car RIGHT NOW is imperative to not only tee up 25, but to have full design focus/budget for next year asap, so this kinda thing does not happen in 2026. It's a frustrating team I tell ya, very frustrating. Had they stuck with CS, their current problem would not be as pronounced.
Watching F1 since 1986.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 20:09
In Ferrari's report for the day, they said they found an anomaly in Lewis's telemetry and ended the day early as a precaution.
very curious to what it could be

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Chuckjr wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 20:15
Had they stuck with CS, their current problem would not be as pronounced.
Nonsense