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[wiktor977]

FP2 to FP3 setup changes were a disaster. But FP3 to Qualy worked great. Then Alonso damaged the floor (2nd consecutive year in Australia he does this). What a rollercoaster...

Drivers become the problem in Aston once the car improves, this was a Q3 car. Has been more noticeable since 2024. I am sure Cowell and Newey know this

Dude, what? Alonso was on the used tyres and had a big snap of oversteer before turn 10, it wasn't a driver error. Last part of the Q2 was a mess, they waited to long in the pits.

Exactly! Alonso didnt make a mistake but the car snapped mid corner and his reactions basically stopped it from being an aeroplane crash. He had to drive out of his skin to make this car do things it clearly can’t handle. No way is it a q3 car lol

No. It is a Q3 car (at least today it was in Alonso's hands) and I don't think that Alonso had to 'fight' the car during quali.

[-wkst-]

FP2 to FP3 setup changes were a disaster. But FP3 to Qualy worked great. Then Alonso damaged the floor (2nd consecutive year in Australia he does this). What a rollercoaster...

Drivers become the problem in Aston once the car improves, this was a Q3 car. Has been more noticeable since 2024. I am sure Cowell and Newey know this

I think your being a little dramatic calling it a q3 car considering stroll didnt come close. I think Alonso was driving out of his skin to make it seem like a Q3 car but the limit was close as the car snapped on him twice when he was going faster in Q2 that damaged the floor. He was asking more than it could give. Calling Alonso a problem is wild when it was him who made it possible for the car to get close in the first place

It is a fact that in this session the drivers failed. Lance because he is Lance and he is simply bad, and Alonso for making mistakes that were once uncharacteristic. Someone else would have got this car into Q3, that's just the way it is.

Exactly.
ALO looked very quick, but such things didn’t happen to him 10 years ago so often. Maybe that’s why we are a bit more critical. He was once the master of controlling such car habits.

[FlyingDuck]

Test and practice sessions usually mean nothing, teams just run their programmes which could be completely different. Also journalists predictions have failed many times over the years. Today's qualy proved it. Racing Bulls and Williams beating Ferrari. Sauber beating Haas. And we know Aston is very fast over one lap, not at the level of the top teams but very close. Race pace we simply don't know until tomorrow.

The field is super compressed and it's very possible many midfield teams will end up getting in the way of top teams depending on the circuit. Aston also has a completely new aerodynamic package so there's low hanging fruit ready to be grabbed by Newey and the new wind tunnel. This championship is shaping up to be epic.

[alonsofan]

I generally take the pace of Alo to be 0.5 secs faster than Stroll. So considering that, Alo didn't nail the lap. Car is ---. Alo making it do things it cannot.

Im not sure what he could have done on the lap to stop a mid corner snap. If we look at this objectively mid corner snaps happen because the corner speed is too great for the downforce available on the rear of the car. If that’s somehow driver error for not nailing the invisible downforce then please explain how.

Alo himself said in the post quali video of Aston, that he made a mistake in Q2 and damaged the car. However, he looked optimistic in the video for tomorrow, since the car has some pace. Let's see. Fingers crossed.

[NAPI10]

Season started on a positive note. Things are not as bad as projected last few weeks. All teams are so tightly bunched up ; one good package & AM will start looking very competitive(at least in the hand of Alonso).

Any analysis on car performance? which type of corners/straights ,its looking strong?

[vas_04614]

It is so much guaranteed to be wet race? Lot of teams posts and drivers talking like it's already raining.

With 4 drs zones there could be drs train if it's dry with cars being so close in midfield

[FNTC]

Race start at 15:00 local time. Might get the rain earlier and drying, but looks like probable rain.


Looks like a huge air temperature difference too. Over 30C during qualy and might be down to 15-16 during the race.

[Sedaxel]

I think Alo made a mistake (as himself said), and it's just because he's always going 110% over car possibilities. That's why he's so good, because he usually goes faster than the car delivers. Yes, this time he made a little mistake... If he hadn't, we'll probably be talking about a fantastic result.

Good news is that he feels good with the car and it's maybe 5th car (in Alo's hands only), which is what the only analyst I posted earlier said, against the opinion of the vast majority of analysts said.

[-wkst-]

I think Alo made a mistake (as himself said), and it's just because he's always going 110% over car possibilities. That's why he's so good, because he usually goes faster than the car delivers. Yes, this time he made a little mistake... If he hadn't, we'll probably be talking about a fantastic result.

Everyone tries to squeeze out everything out of the car, especially in qualifying. He made a mistake, admitted it, end of the story. However, it was very costly unfortunately…

[Sedaxel]

Everyone tries, but not everyone gets the same result. That's where the difference between drives is. Sometimes it goes right (and the everyone praises the hero) and other times it goes wrong (and then, some start the he's getting old and faily speech... Nothing unusual, sadly).

He made a mistake, that's the fact. And even so, with damages in his car, he's ahead of his team mate.

For me, the great news is that he's happy with the car, and he thinks it's a good basis to develop.

[Sedaxel]

The analyst that predicted Aston as 5th car is now saying that this is clearly so.

He says Aston made the mistake of going used tyres on the beginning of Q2 like if they were at the same level of top teams, while they're not still there. They should have gone new softs and ensure Q3.

Well, I'm liking this guy. I've been following him since Bahrain tests an so far he's been right, while every other analyst I've seen... Failed.

[FNTC]

If it rains in the race, Alonso can work his magic, Stroll is usually pretty good in the wet too. As long as they can avoid all the rookies and the chaos that probably will ensue.

[zoroastar]

FP2 to FP3 setup changes were a disaster. But FP3 to Qualy worked great. Then Alonso damaged the floor (2nd consecutive year in Australia he does this). What a rollercoaster...

Drivers become the problem in Aston once the car improves, this was a Q3 car. Has been more noticeable since 2024. I am sure Cowell and Newey know this

I think your being a little dramatic calling it a q3 car considering stroll didnt come close. I think Alonso was driving out of his skin to make it seem like a Q3 car but the limit was close as the car snapped on him twice when he was going faster in Q2 that damaged the floor. He was asking more than it could give. Calling Alonso a problem is wild when it was him who made it possible for the car to get close in the first place

It is a fact that in this session the drivers failed. Lance because he is Lance and he is simply bad, and Alonso for making mistakes that were once uncharacteristic. Someone else would have got this car into Q3, that's just the way it is.

a different driver, a different day, a different car. since were talking about hypotheticals. every driver went off the track or spun at some point, because that is racing. stuff happens when you are pushing the limits. thats just the way it is.

[zoroastar]

is the room under maintenance or something? its been practically unusable for the last couple of days.

[Sedaxel]

Alo out. Pity, he was much faster than Gasly. Again, the good news is that the car seems quick.