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[SchuMassa]

Very disappointing race. Car was somewhat better than expected but I don't think having the 6th fastest car is something to celebrate.
Fernando was clearly faster than Stroll, but made way too many mistakes, both in Q and R. Unacceptable on his level. Let's hope he improves in China.

[Big Gun]

This entire GP was a huge missed opportunity. A good qualifying you could have put it between p5-p9. Race pace wasn't as good (though better than Alpine) but overtaking was extremely difficult in these conditions so you could have held that position pretty well. Sadly it was not possible.

And now the changing conditions and craziness... this was the race that the old Fernando would excel in. But instead second mistake. I think a podium was completely possible today from his part if he'd started much further ahead. Stroll decent job but honestly he never showed any kind of real speed in the entire GP.

Fernando keeps making uncharacteristic mistakes, I keep pointing it out, and I keep getting strong reactions. But it is becoming impossible to ignore. And again, Cowell and Newey are not blind....

Was Gravel on the curb as Brundle (Alonso hater) at the time said but now confirmed to be gravel.

I think your wrong, I thought all weekend he looked Pacy

[FlyingDuck]

Qualy problem was clearly Alonso's mistake. Race problem was the gravel. He clearly makes the right line over the corner. Just pure bad luck.

Regarding the pace of the car it was faster than Alpine, a car that was faster by a sizeable margin at the end of last season, and keeping Antonelli in check. For me Aston is 5th team in an extremely compressed grid and with room for improvement over the next races.

[RedNEO]

Well now we know what happened in that curve 6… #rallyedakar

(Gasly spat out a nice gravel trap for Alonso to slip into)

[Sedaxel]

Nah... It's Alo Who doesn't stop making mistakes.

Now seriously: he was very fast on that moment of the race. He was able to keep Antonelli 2 seconds behind easily (yeah, he'd be maybe saving tyres too, but that didn't stop him too overtake Stroll).

Alo was maybe the second fastest car in that moment. Of course he had well cared tyres, but even so, they were a good amount of laps old... Last year he'd probably have them already destroyed. I think the car has improved remarkably, and I think Alo will have some chances to make good races too.

[TyreSlip]

Alonso posted a picture of the spot he crashed on his Instagram. Wow... there was a ton of gravel off turn 6. Unlucky.

[TyreSlip]

Nah... It's Alo Who doesn't stop making mistakes.

Now seriously: he was very fast on that moment of the race. He was able to keep Antonelli 2 seconds behind easily (yeah, he'd be maybe saving tyres too, but that didn't stop him too overtake Stroll).

Alo was maybe the second fastest car in that moment. Of course he had well cared tyres, but even so, they were a good amount of laps old... Last year he'd probably have them already destroyed. I think the car has improved remarkably, and I think Alo will have some chances to make good races too.

Stroll was dropping off a cliff a few laps before Alonso's crash. When Alonso said someting along the lines of "going for it now", he drove faster than everyone except the McLarens and Verstappen. Alonso was doing 28s and 29s, while Stroll was doing 30s and 31s. It was unfortunate timing to be pushing hard at the time behind Gasly with gravel off turn 6.

[Sedaxel]

Nah... It's Alo Who doesn't stop making mistakes.

Now seriously: he was very fast on that moment of the race. He was able to keep Antonelli 2 seconds behind easily (yeah, he'd be maybe saving tyres too, but that didn't stop him too overtake Stroll).

Alo was maybe the second fastest car in that moment. Of course he had well cared tyres, but even so, they were a good amount of laps old... Last year he'd probably have them already destroyed. I think the car has improved remarkably, and I think Alo will have some chances to make good races too.

Stroll was dropping off a cliff a few laps before Alonso's crash. When Alonso said someting along the lines of "going for it now", he drove faster than everyone except the McLarens and Verstappen. Alonso was doing 28s and 29s, while Stroll was doing 30s and 31s. It was unfortunate timing to be pushing hard at the time behind Gasly with gravel off turn 6.

Yeah, I think he was pretty quick in the race. He didn't try to overtake because it was almost impossible... But when he went for it, he was really unlucky. But there are good feelings... Much better than last year, for sure.

[SSJ4]

Yeah Alonso was to blame for qualy but not the race. Piastri and gasly knocked up gravel onto the track before alonso ended up spinning. Max locked up and went onto the grass, Leclerc spun, Norris and piastri were on the grass and gravel. So a lot of people were making mistakes

Anyways pace looked solid. He was 6th quickest driver on the track overall and in 1.28s before the crash. Car looked faster than Williams and alpine but we’ll see at China what happens

[TyreSlip]

And gravel on track only happend to ALO in this wet race, with a lot of gravel-run-off-areas?

I don't want to know how often such incidents happend today.

The ALO community follows a little bit to much the "Kimi Räikkönen way" nowadays. There's always a reason why A or B happened and things didn't work out. I always liked the "Fernando Alonso way", just pure racing and no BS. In the end noone drove into him, he just lost the car with some gravel on track. Hopefully a better result in China.

Norris drove off track
Verstappen drove off track
Piastri drove off track and spun
Leclerc spun
Antonelli drove off track and spun
Gasly drove off track
Tsunoda drove off track
Lawson crashed
Bortoleto crashed
Sainz crashed
Doohan crashed
Hadjar crashed

This is only what we saw live or on replay. Conditions were tough yesterday when almost everyone made an error of some kind. Alonso's resulted in a race retirement. It happens. I still mitigate part of the error due to excessive gravel off turn 6 at a time when he was pushing hard to pass at the time, and I feel that is being objective.

[Sedaxel]

I'd say it's faster than racing bull too.

And, even when I'm not asking for all of you calling me crazy, I'd suggest we're not that far from Mercedes or Ferrari. Behind, yes. But not that far away as last year.

[TyreSlip]

I'd say it's faster than racing bull too.

And, even when I'm not asking for all of you calling me crazy, I'd suggest we're not that far from Mercedes or Ferrari. Behind, yes. But not that far away as last year.

All we know is the car can fight in the top 10 on a wet track. A dry race at a front and rear-limited circuit is needed to truly judge the car's race-pace capabilities.

[TLof]

Quite predictably doom and gloom pervades this thread. I don't blame Alonso, both Coulthard and Brundle were surprised and David even immediately speculated that the gravel could have been a reason for losing the car.

In Alonso's hands, the car looked pretty decent considering what was expected after testing. However, they need to improve if they want to get out of the midfield battles and we have yet to see the performance on dry conditions

[RedNEO]

Nah... It's Alo Who doesn't stop making mistakes.

Now seriously: he was very fast on that moment of the race. He was able to keep Antonelli 2 seconds behind easily (yeah, he'd be maybe saving tyres too, but that didn't stop him too overtake Stroll).

Alo was maybe the second fastest car in that moment. Of course he had well cared tyres, but even so, they were a good amount of laps old... Last year he'd probably have them already destroyed. I think the car has improved remarkably, and I think Alo will have some chances to make good races too.

Stroll was dropping off a cliff a few laps before Alonso's crash. When Alonso said someting along the lines of "going for it now", he drove faster than everyone except the McLarens and Verstappen. Alonso was doing 28s and 29s, while Stroll was doing 30s and 31s. It was unfortunate timing to be pushing hard at the time behind Gasly with gravel off turn 6.

It was just unfortunate wrong place wrong time nothing Alonso could have done to anticipate that mess on that corner and react accordingly. Some people in here are already trying to push the “Alonso is finished” narrative at race 1 (lol) because they want Neweys next car for their favourite drivers. Alonso will bounce back next weekend his pace was extremely good just got unlucky. Glad the next race is next week. Some crow needs to be served

[Sedaxel]

Nah... It's Alo Who doesn't stop making mistakes.

Now seriously: he was very fast on that moment of the race. He was able to keep Antonelli 2 seconds behind easily (yeah, he'd be maybe saving tyres too, but that didn't stop him too overtake Stroll).

Alo was maybe the second fastest car in that moment. Of course he had well cared tyres, but even so, they were a good amount of laps old... Last year he'd probably have them already destroyed. I think the car has improved remarkably, and I think Alo will have some chances to make good races too.

Stroll was dropping off a cliff a few laps before Alonso's crash. When Alonso said someting along the lines of "going for it now", he drove faster than everyone except the McLarens and Verstappen. Alonso was doing 28s and 29s, while Stroll was doing 30s and 31s. It was unfortunate timing to be pushing hard at the time behind Gasly with gravel off turn 6.

It was just unfortunate wrong place wrong time nothing Alonso could have done to anticipate that mess on that corner and react accordingly. Some people in here are already trying to push the “Alonso is finished” narrative at race 1 (lol) because they want Neweys next car for their favourite drivers. Alonso will bounce back next weekend his pace was extremely good just got unlucky. Glad the next race is next week. Some crow needs to be served

Agree.