Thanks, normally we will get an idea on tyre deg during FP2 long runs but it's sprint weekend.
So we'll get answer directly in sprint race on sat morning.
I brought the RAI example, because his fans always had excuses, like I witnessed against ALO in 2014. It was never the drivers fault, which I always found quite ridiculous.zoroastar wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 18:18raikkonen was off the mark for several years before he finally retired. the difference here is that alonso still performs 9 out of 10 races and on the 11th there are people that come on specifically to point out how old he is.the two examples dont have anything in common. nobody is calling for every other driver that made mistakes in the rain (which is every driver) to be sacked. or maybe they are and i just havent been in the threads. rather harsh fanbase if thats the case. it is what it is.-wkst- wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 11:56And gravel on track only happend to ALO in this wet race, with a lot of gravel-run-off-areas?
I don't want to know how often such incidents happend today.
The ALO community follows a little bit to much the "Kimi Räikkönen way" nowadays. There's always a reason why A or B happened and things didn't work out. I always liked the "Fernando Alonso way", just pure racing and no BS. In the end noone drove into him, he just lost the car with some gravel on track. Hopefully a better result in China.
-wkst- wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 21:42I brought the RAI example, because his fans always had excuses, like I witnessed against ALO in 2014. It was never the drivers fault, which I always found quite ridiculous.zoroastar wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 18:18raikkonen was off the mark for several years before he finally retired. the difference here is that alonso still performs 9 out of 10 races and on the 11th there are people that come on specifically to point out how old he is.the two examples dont have anything in common. nobody is calling for every other driver that made mistakes in the rain (which is every driver) to be sacked. or maybe they are and i just havent been in the threads. rather harsh fanbase if thats the case. it is what it is.-wkst- wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 11:56And gravel on track only happend to ALO in this wet race, with a lot of gravel-run-off-areas?
I don't want to know how often such incidents happend today.
The ALO community follows a little bit to much the "Kimi Räikkönen way" nowadays. There's always a reason why A or B happened and things didn't work out. I always liked the "Fernando Alonso way", just pure racing and no BS. In the end noone drove into him, he just lost the car with some gravel on track. Hopefully a better result in China.
Anyway, the sum up from ashwinv16 is not correct in my opinion. They were faster in Q than the results showed. 1:16.288 mid Q1, that’s only 6 tenths away from P5 in Q3 with massive track evolution…
In the race there were ups and downs pace wise, STR uncompetitive. Comparisons to Mercedes are silly at this point, RUS (not the rookie in the other car) was half a minute in front of ALO, when he crashed…
Yeah, and Alo was considerably faster than Gasly, so obviously he could have been much closer to the cars ahead if he wasn't 30 laps blocked, since he didn't even try to overtake as it was virtually impossible (staying in the dry lane was a must, unless you're 2 seconds faster). So, no, half a minute is not a valid metric, sorry. He'd maybe have been far from Rus, but not half a minute.-wkst- wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 21:42I brought the RAI example, because his fans always had excuses, like I witnessed against ALO in 2014. It was never the drivers fault, which I always found quite ridiculous.zoroastar wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 18:18raikkonen was off the mark for several years before he finally retired. the difference here is that alonso still performs 9 out of 10 races and on the 11th there are people that come on specifically to point out how old he is.the two examples dont have anything in common. nobody is calling for every other driver that made mistakes in the rain (which is every driver) to be sacked. or maybe they are and i just havent been in the threads. rather harsh fanbase if thats the case. it is what it is.-wkst- wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 11:56And gravel on track only happend to ALO in this wet race, with a lot of gravel-run-off-areas?
I don't want to know how often such incidents happend today.
The ALO community follows a little bit to much the "Kimi Räikkönen way" nowadays. There's always a reason why A or B happened and things didn't work out. I always liked the "Fernando Alonso way", just pure racing and no BS. In the end noone drove into him, he just lost the car with some gravel on track. Hopefully a better result in China.
Anyway, the sum up from ashwinv16 is not correct in my opinion. They were faster in Q than the results showed. 1:16.288 mid Q1, that’s only 6 tenths away from P5 in Q3 with massive track evolution…
In the race there were ups and downs pace wise, STR uncompetitive. Comparisons to Mercedes are silly at this point, RUS (not the rookie in the other car) was half a minute in front of ALO, when he crashed…
what do you thinkselvam_e2002 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2025, 12:19Only AMR management knows if they are going to put any effort on 2025 with help of Newey.
Alonso was quoted in an interview, that Lawrence told him, that they can't tell Newey what to work on. The deal is, he works on whatever he thinks is more important. Even if he chooses not to work on the 2025 car, it doesn't mean he will not have guidance from his leanings on this generation of aero to pass on to the engineers there that will help the progression of this year's car.Fluido wrote: ↑17 Mar 2025, 13:04what do you thinkselvam_e2002 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2025, 12:19Only AMR management knows if they are going to put any effort on 2025 with help of Newey.
it may come down to whether or not newey thinks the upgrades that they already have in the pipeline will work or not, or how certain the team are this time around. they are probably thinking the best situation would be for newey to only concentrate on 26 of course.diffuser wrote: ↑17 Mar 2025, 15:11Alonso was quoted in an interview, that Lawrence told him, that they can't tell Newey what to work on. The deal is, he works on whatever he thinks is more important. Even if he chooses not to work on the 2025 car, it doesn't mean he will not have guidance from his leanings on this generation of aero to pass on to the engineers there that will help the progression of this year's car.Fluido wrote: ↑17 Mar 2025, 13:04what do you thinkselvam_e2002 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2025, 12:19Only AMR management knows if they are going to put any effort on 2025 with help of Newey.
wow i couldnt see that much gravel on the tv. surprised there werent more problems than just alonso. maybe helped out by the safety car he caused. it looked like gasley kicked out some of it right in front alonsoAlonsoforever wrote: ↑16 Mar 2025, 23:23Hello all! This is my first post. There is a great pic of Alonso going over the gravel and loosing control of the car... how do i popst the pic? You can see it in this link
https://www.todoalicante.es/english/alo ... 10-nt.html
https://s1.ppllstatics.com/rc/www/multi ... alonso.JPG