Flexiwings 2025

[Vanja #66]

[Cs98]

And in a new Technical Directive distributed to teams, TD055A, the FIA’s single-seater director Nikolas Tombazis has confirmed that even further measures will come into force from the following round in Japan on April 4-6.

Significantly, Tombazis confirms that the changes introduced at Suzuka are expected to be absorbed into an updated version of F1’s technical regulations, subject to FIA World Motor Motorsport Council approval, before the end of this month.

Technical Directives, never made available to the public, are usually mere interpretations of rules expressed by an FIA official, with the plan to include the Japanese GP measures in the F1 2025 regulations an indication of the governing body’s seriousness in tackling the issue of flexi wings.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/new-fia-f ... s-to-light
FIA are not happy

[Cs98]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmT2cTOWoAA ... ame=medium

[Vanja #66]

https://i.imgur.com/kIxHwTu.png

It really is a joke, isn't it

[Emag]

To me the reaction of FIA is quite strong for something that doesn't seem to be at all visible in the footage we have available (McLaren and Red Bull in Australia, Mercedes in Bahrain). I think that there has to be a more visible, obvious "mini DRS" happening for FIA to institute an immediate clampdown in 7 days.

Is there a footage of Ferrari in Bahrain or in Australia? Is it possible that Ferrari had a "mini DRS" wing that FIA told them Saturday morning that it is not allowed?

Flexing of whole wing assembly is not what is being test here, they are measuring the deflection between parts of the wing so deflection of the whole wing doesn't show up on this.

Again for the last time, the directive is not about the flex of the entire assembly. It's specifically about the widening of the slot gap between the mainplane and the drs flap that happens at load. It is not visible on TV cameras because we are talking about a centimeter at most (on max load).

They need to make another TD to enforce stricter tests about the flex of the assembly.

[Vanja #66]

Reasonable flexing

[FittingMechanics]

What does the flexing of the whole rear wing and beam wing have to do with this test?

[Emag]

Reasonable flexing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmUQ_sRaAAA ... =4096x4096

Didn't they already issue a "sticter" TD about this thing before we even got to Australia? How come it seems to have done nothing.

[Vanja #66]

Oh look, Red Bull flexes as well.

Is this supposed to be an ironic comparison or?

Didn't they already issue a "sticter" TD about this thing before we even got to Australia? How come it seems to have done nothing.

This is my concern as well. I've always said it's up to teams to push the rules and it's up to FIA to provide equal ruling for everyone, my beef is not with McLaren

[euv2]

What does the flexing of the whole rear wing and beam wing have to do with this test?

Oh look, Red Bull flexes as well.
https://i.ibb.co/xSnbyhdR/image.png

At least try to be genuine and use the lines, just before and after braking on straights and not in corner when the car is rotating with its weight shifted also slight inclination on turns. The pic posted by Vanja is much more representative.

[FittingMechanics]

- unrepresentative

[Emag]

This is my concern as well. I've always said it's up to teams to push the rules and it's up to FIA to provide equal ruling for everyone, my beef is not with McLaren

Honestly, this is a really bad look on the FIA. They have changed tests so many times by now, yet we still have teams which are able to get the same effects by going around them. What's the point of even doing this if it's not going to change anything?

They needed to bite the bullet a long time ago and just allow teams some more freedom in the area. At least everyone would have had the same understanding of what is allowed and what's not allowed.

The other option is to increase the forces applied on static load tests and measure allowances from there. 75kg is a bit of a joke for Formula 1, the components are under so much more load at 250+ kmh. What an oddly suspicious number as well. It's almost as if they're 'testing' these things by having a guy sit on top of the wing and measure the flex with a ruler ...

[Vanja #66]

Vanja used a photo on the right that is almost at the beginning of the back straight (Lenovo ads) - a full 8 seconds before braking. The car is no where near top speed. If he found that image, fine, if he did it on purpose, that is really not good.

If someone wants to do a check for themselves, Lawson on lap 21 has a full lap without DRS with the rear view camera.

Talk about grasping straws mate





Lawson has a different rear wing mate, just FIY

Do you understand how disingenuous your RB flex comparison was? You caught two moments when the rear wing is vibrating sideways and then compared two extreme point locations, not even close to a representative scenario

[FittingMechanics]

Vanja used a photo on the right that is almost at the beginning of the back straight (Lenovo ads) - a full 8 seconds before braking. The car is no where near top speed. If he found that image, fine, if he did it on purpose, that is really not good.

If someone wants to do a check for themselves, Lawson on lap 21 has a full lap without DRS with the rear view camera.

Talk about grasping straws mate

Lawson has a different rear wing mate, just FIY

Do you understand how disingenuous your RB flex comparison was? You caught two moments when the rear wing is vibrating sideways and then compared two extreme point locations, not even close to a representative scenario

I made a Verstappen comparison and it looks close to your screenshot, so I apologize. But I still think the comparison should not use two different points of the track.
For reference this is the comparison for Verstappen I made. Looks quite similar to the one you made.


In my defense, looks like Lawsons camera is not positioned straight because in most screenshots I can't get a straight line across the rear wing, it's slanted.

[fourmula1]

Are we assuming they implemented the new test so quickly because a team is abusing it - instead maybe they brought it forward because now all teams have already complied so there is no reason to delay and allow a team to reverse course for a few rounds?

Based on limited video we clearly aren't seeing the same separation of drs and mainplane like we saw last year.