2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
25 Mar 2025, 23:27
Ok let’s wait and see. Nothing I’ve seen of him convinces me he has the temperament for that seat. Should have gone in for a Piastri but nobody wants to risk disrupting Max
It's not like there's an abundance of great drivers willing to join RedBull at the moment you know. They have to play with what they've got. Liam wasn't cutting it. Those performances were shockingly bad to be honest, I never expected him to do that badly. It's totally reasonable that they can't continue with a driver who has been slowest in pretty much all competitive sessions we have had so far.
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How can I quickly destroy the F1 career of two talented racing drivers? ASK RBR!! #-o :x

They shoud change their f*cking car instead of changing the drivers! Yuki is doing great in the VCARB02.

He will do bad before his homecrowd in Suzuka thanks to this rediculous decision!!! :evil:
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lol, imagine if Lawson in Racing Bull qualifies ahead of Tsunoda in Red Bull.

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How many young drivers do they want to break? Albon, Gasly, Kvyat, Lawson… if you don’t want to put an experienced racer next to max to challenge him, then the talent needs nurturing.

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Tsunoda has gotten more leeway than almost every driver at RB, if anyone else performed at the level he did in their 1st season like he did against Gasly it would have been curtains for them.

A pay driver in almost every sense of the word but people conveniently forget that. Let's see how it goes, I do not have much faith that he'll be much better than Checo or Liam, expecting more of the same. It would be funny if Lawson and Hadjar were faster in the upcoming races, Red bull are setting themselves up for some thorough grilling from the press.

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AR3-GP wrote:
25 Mar 2025, 23:17
I'm excited by the swap. You all are getting bogged down by fear. This is great opportunity for everyone. The truth is that testing and 2 races was enough to understand Lawson's potential in this car. Drivers who will do well in that car, do not take long to show it. Look at the other drivers in the 2nd seat. Drivers who started poorly (Perez, Gasly, Albon), never improved. Lawson would be the same.

I think Yuki will surprise people. I remember that he and Gasly did not like the same car. Now Red Bull must do absolutely everything possible before Japan to prepare him. They should have him do some kilometers in the RB19 at Silverstone before the end of the week. He already has a great knowledge of the Honda engine.
Agree, looking forward to next race in seeing what he can do there.

If he's not ready to take it on, then he'll never be. A driver has to be ready to step up if he wants to proceed in career. He's been long enough in F1 to know now what approach to take.

It is make or break though, that's the risk. As it was, he was destined to get to the end of this season without knowing.

Golden opportunity, I'd like to see Yuki get stuck into it.

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Red Bull could also see a boost in support from Honda with the PU. Honda always gave 100% but you can sense that there will be some extra motivation on the PU side because of Yuki's chances to win a GP.
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Farnborough wrote:
25 Mar 2025, 23:47
AR3-GP wrote:
25 Mar 2025, 23:17
I'm excited by the swap. You all are getting bogged down by fear. This is great opportunity for everyone. The truth is that testing and 2 races was enough to understand Lawson's potential in this car. Drivers who will do well in that car, do not take long to show it. Look at the other drivers in the 2nd seat. Drivers who started poorly (Perez, Gasly, Albon), never improved. Lawson would be the same.

I think Yuki will surprise people. I remember that he and Gasly did not like the same car. Now Red Bull must do absolutely everything possible before Japan to prepare him. They should have him do some kilometers in the RB19 at Silverstone before the end of the week. He already has a great knowledge of the Honda engine.
Agree, looking forward to next race in seeing what he can do there.

If he's not ready to take it on, then he'll never be. A driver has to be ready to step up if he wants to proceed in career. He's been long enough in F1 to know now what approach to take.

It is make or break though, that's the risk. As it was, he was destined to get to the end of this season without knowing.

Golden opportunity, I'd like to see Yuki get stuck into it.
I'm with you both! Unfortunately, we missed out on Sainz last year, and Checo never recovered. I would have suggested throwing a contract at George, but his relationship with Max soured. They wouldn't risk rocking the boat as long as Max is around.

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Yuki did a test with redbull last year but he didn't crush or run wide or do anything silly so nobody thought anything of it.but yuki said he didn't do any dirt laps he was consistent .Horner said he did well so they have some data.

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Bill wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 00:15
Yuki did a test with redbull last year but he didn't crush or run wide or do anything silly so nobody thought anything of it.but yuki said he didn't do any dirt laps he was consistent .Horner said he did well so they have some data.
Looking forward to the strategy improvement? :wink:
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Throwing Yuki at the problem isn't going to fix a flawed car. He did marginally better than Lawson last year with 3 (now 4) years of experience and a full offeason.

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LookingGlass wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 00:34
Throwing Yuki at the problem isn't going to fix a flawed car. He did marginally better than Lawson last year with 3 (now 4) years of experience and a full offeason.
Every car on the grid is flawed in some way. I don't remember anyone saying that Kubica, Sargeant, and Latifi shouldn't have been sacked, and that the Williams was just flawed. Sainz hasn't been close to Albon either...Why won't Williams stop throwing drivers at it...
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Sergej wrote:
25 Mar 2025, 23:36
lol, imagine if Lawson in Racing Bull qualifies ahead of Tsunoda in Red Bull.
Imagine ? Lawson has a lot of experience at Suzuka. He also beat Tsunoda in his 4th ever F1 start at Suzuka in 2023.

It wouldn't surprise me if RBR expects the RB cars to beat the 2nd Red Bull. They would be happy if its a Q2 exit and top 12 finish.

The thing about Tsunoda and Hadjar for that matter is, they are the types that would crash out rather than exit in Q1 or finish last.

That is my prediction. Tsunoda will show more speed in the RBR but also crash is at some point. Proper tub loss kind of crash.

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AR3-GP wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 00:52
LookingGlass wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 00:34
Throwing Yuki at the problem isn't going to fix a flawed car. He did marginally better than Lawson last year with 3 (now 4) years of experience and a full offeason.
Every car on the grid is flawed in some way. I don't remember anyone saying that Kubica, Sargeant, and Latifi shouldn't have been sacked, and that the Williams was just flawed. Sainz hasn't been close to Albon either...Why won't Williams stop throwing drivers at it...
Didn't say other cars are perfect. The same Dutch source initially reporting the driver change is reporting Max is unhappy with the decision because it doesn't fix the issues with the car.

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The pressure on the engineering department will increase to boiling levels when Tsunoda also can't handle the car but did go well at RacingBulls.