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[Szabi1112]

Ok. Its disappointing

[mwillems]

Ask Lando if it's the drivers

[Darth-Piekus]

We can safely say that the car is fastest in race pace and has higher downforce so we are gonna have tyre advantage but can we pass him with his higher top speed in the two straights? We shal see. If I was Norris I would divebomb on the first turn as it's the best chance to pass quickly without being many laps behind.

Finally I believe people can stop with the domination nonsense. The car is the fastest but the difference is small and can be covered if one driver does better.

[CjC]

Game on! Hope it all stays clean tomorrow. Max will make sure he’s leading into turn 2

[cliffgamerz]

We can safely say that the car is fastest in race pace and has higher downforce so we are gonna have tyre advantage but can we pass him with his higher top speed in the two straights? We shal see. If I was Norris I would divebomb on the first turn as it's the best chance to pass quickly without being many laps behind.

Finally I believe people can stop with the domination nonsense. The car is the fastest but the difference is small and can be covered if one driver does better.

Also i believe Russell was slightly quicker but he messed up both of his runs in Q3. Mclaren seems like its very tricky car to drive and extract full performance, if their race pace is very good then it doesn't matter much as tyre management and going long on stints can eclipse Max's top speed by pitting early or later than him.

[Emag]

I guess it's safe to say the car is fast, but peaky. One of the drivers had a poor first lap with a good second lap and the other had a good first lap but a bad second lap.

When things get tight, they can't seem to put together competitive laps consecutively and it has been like this every qualifying session we have had so far. If you stitch the best sectors, I am sure the pole goes to McLaren, but what good is that if none of the drivers can consistently do it.

[Avocado]

McLaren will be fine tomorrow. I expect 1-2.

[Ben1980]

Think thr dominant thing has already been put to bed.

It will likely be the most consistent, but doesn't mean others will challenge.

[Darth-Piekus]

I guess it's safe to say the car is fast, but peaky. One of the drivers had a poor first lap with a good second lap and the other had a good first lap but a bad second lap.

When things get tight, they can't seem to put together competitive laps consecutively and it has been like this every qualifying session we have had so far. If you stitch the best sectors, I am sure the pole goes to McLaren, but what good is that if none of the drivers can consistently do it.

Is it the driver though or the car? As the car is picky of when to work I dont think any driver can do much.

[Emag]

I guess it's safe to say the car is fast, but peaky. One of the drivers had a poor first lap with a good second lap and the other had a good first lap but a bad second lap.

When things get tight, they can't seem to put together competitive laps consecutively and it has been like this every qualifying session we have had so far. If you stitch the best sectors, I am sure the pole goes to McLaren, but what good is that if none of the drivers can consistently do it.

Is it the driver though or the car? As the car is picky of when to work I dont think any driver can do much.

It's both. Max is also struggling with a peaky RedBull, but he pulled together an amazing lap in the end. I think McLaren as a car has way more in it, but none of the drivers have shown what it is capable of.

[Darth-Piekus]

Since our car is more picky could you then say that our drivers have done a better job than Max in the previous two rounds?

[Emag]

Since our car is more picky could you then say that our drivers have done a better job than Max in the previous two rounds?

Wouldn't say so.
Australia was very good, given they only had one lap with both making mistakes on their first runs.
China was all over the place. Oscar just got pole because he just sent it on the hairpin and hoped for it to stick.
Here again, it seems like they left something on the table. Lando couldn't match his FP2 S3 and he also couldn't match Oscar's S2.

Car has had laptime that drivers could not piece together, both in China and here.

It settles down in the race because you don't push it 100% on race trim. Part of the reason why they're good on the tires is because the car can drive to a certain laptime easier than competitors, with less strain.

[Darth-Piekus]

I dont see where this false narrative comes from that the car should be 3 tenths faster than the rest. No driver has done perfect laps in all 3 rounds. You could argue that they werent perfect but still they did a better job than the rest and the difference over one lap is so miniscule that one mistake can send you down many places.

[mwillems]

It's an assumption, but one that has merit and many would agree with, that if you put Max in this car he'd be doing a lot better than both of our guys.

The RB is very difficult to drive - more so than the MCL39, but he's able to get consistently fast laps out of it anyway. He's clearly the best on the grid right now.

Oscar I understand it a little more but it is getting to the point that over this season he should be getting on top of it. Lando, in his Seventh season, I've made my feelings clear before about his mistakes and how in a tight fight they will be critical, and it doesn't seem to get better. It hasn't really improved over the last 2 years. But it doesn't matter now. I've stopped moaning about it because it feels clear that it won't get better, that this may be peak Lando.

Contrary to Lando's opinion, the car is the star, in my view.

[Darth-Piekus]

Assuming he could drive the Mclaren. So far only Hamilton and Alonso have been consistent in different cars. Im not ready to put him above our drivers unless he is consistent in a car that is not a Red Bull.