2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[Alo_Fan]

Do we just accept we're the worst team or put resources on this car, realistically the only solution would be a spec B version but we wouldn't do that with the new regs next year.

[ladaman11]

Well the car is terrible but also i don't understand the team.
Yesterday the team used 3 set of softs in Q1 when clearly not needed for alonso, then in Q2 the fourth new soft set never used ( i suppose in order to keep it for the race).
At the race today the new soft (clearly the better tire of all - look at the progress of lawson before penalty) never used.
Compromised qualifying yesterday, no take the advantage of the tire today....

[LookingGlass]

The AMR25... Fallow's Magnum Opus

[Nikosar]

Do we just accept we're the worst team or put resources on this car, realistically the only solution would be a spec B version but we wouldn't do that with the new regs next year.

They already made a decision last winter. They had the option to change the concept of the car or try to make the AM24 easier to drive as they are confident they can extract performance form it.

The first option is expensive in terms of resources so knowing that it is the last season of this regulation they opted going all in for 26 and chose less expensive solution by pursuing the improving of the AMR24 with a more predictable base and 100% aerodynamic new car (as per Cowell saying).

Last week reports indicated that Mondays with Lawrence at the factory are absolute hell so good luck to everyone in the team tomorrow as the initial plan is not going as they planned in the winter.

Imola looks far for Aston at moment.

[TyreSlip]

Lawrence needs to stay away from the factory. Everyone knows the car is crap and that no magic setup is going to make it faster. If Lawrence is going to spend Monday morning chewing out the team, then he needs to know that is a few hours less the team can spend working on the car. Let Andy Cowell do his job.

[Jambier]

Well… they cannot go backwards anymore now. That’s the only positive

[Sedaxel]

Fastest lap of Race :

Alpine - 1:36.531
Racing Bulls - 1:36.952
Haas - 1:37.098
Williams - 1:37.142
Sauber - 1:37.338
Aston Martin - 1:37.906

Just terrible.

[mvfad]

The best moments of this team since the Force India/Racing Point days were when they "copied" someone else's car.
Maybe that's the solution until AN can make the AMR 26 lol

[zoroastar]

Yeah... That's a very poor excuse for the son of the boss.

It's a very lacking explanation.

the saddest part of this team right now isnt their lack of pace, their mistakes or their inability to make it out of Q2. its the never ending excuse making that they do every time lance doesnt perform. or when in an interview, a guy asks a question about alonso, and they have to turn the question around to talk about how lance is good. its effing sad and pathetic, and makes me want to vomit in my mouth everytime it happens. and it happens every single week in every interview and on every twitter post. the guy just needs to GET GOOD if they want people to like him. the never ending coddling that this guy gets makes me sick and i would argue makes people dislike him that much more.

edit: i admit the 1st sentence is a slight exaggeration.

[diffuser]

Do we just accept we're the worst team or put resources on this car, realistically the only solution would be a spec B version but we wouldn't do that with the new regs next year.

They already made a decision last winter. They had the option to change the concept of the car or try to make the AM24 easier to drive as they are confident they can extract performance form it.

The first option is expensive in terms of resources so knowing that it is the last season of this regulation they opted going all in for 26 and chose less expensive solution by pursuing the improving of the AMR24 with a more predictable base and 100% aerodynamic new car (as per Cowell saying).

Last week reports indicated that Mondays with Lawrence at the factory are absolute hell so good luck to everyone in the team tomorrow as the initial plan is not going as they planned in the winter.

Imola looks far for Aston at moment.

It would be 12 weeks from when Newey Started. 4 weeks to design a New floor, 8 weeks to manufacture?

[RedNEO]

Do we just accept we're the worst team or put resources on this car, realistically the only solution would be a spec B version but we wouldn't do that with the new regs next year.

They already made a decision last winter. They had the option to change the concept of the car or try to make the AM24 easier to drive as they are confident they can extract performance form it.

The first option is expensive in terms of resources so knowing that it is the last season of this regulation they opted going all in for 26 and chose less expensive solution by pursuing the improving of the AMR24 with a more predictable base and 100% aerodynamic new car (as per Cowell saying).

Last week reports indicated that Mondays with Lawrence at the factory are absolute hell so good luck to everyone in the team tomorrow as the initial plan is not going as they planned in the winter.

Imola looks far for Aston at moment.

It would be 12 weeks from when Newey Started. 4 weeks to design a New floor, 8 weeks to manufacture?

I hope it comes sooner with all the new machinery they have to make things faster

[-wkst-]

The funny thing of the weekend is still the STR excuse from Krack "we had the wrong ride height" after Q.

With P19 achieved it's not that much of a penalty to correct it and start from the pitlane one would say. Unless it was just a clumsy excuse...

[collindsilva]

The funny thing of the weekend is still the STR excuse from Krack "we had the wrong ride height" after Q.

With P19 achieved it's not that much of a penalty to correct it and start from the pitlane one would say. Unless it was just a clumsy excuse...

There seems to be serious operational issues with the AMR..

[peewon]

The funny thing of the weekend is still the STR excuse from Krack "we had the wrong ride height" after Q.

With P19 achieved it's not that much of a penalty to correct it and start from the pitlane one would say. Unless it was just a clumsy excuse...

This has been the worrying trend in AM since the first upgrade to AMR23. They always think its one small thing that needs to be fixed or circumstances that held them back. So many times they have said updates didn't work because it was a sprint weekend and they had limited time to optimize. Then when they dont work on a regular weekend so it must be track specific. Or we messed up the ride height or tyre choices didnt suit our car. They either dont understand they have major systemic issues or they keep trying to put up an optimistic face by downplaying problems because the fear Stroll.

Compare that to Mclaren in '23. They said in Bahrain testing they made a wrong choice in design and it will take 4 months to fix and they will be bad till then. No excuses. From day 1 they knew the problem and how long to fix it. They brought the updates exactly according to the timeline, on a sprint weekend IIRC and were immediately at the front of the grid.

Ive been wondering who consults Lawrence on which staff to go poach from other teams. Surely not Krack who has very limited F1 experience and relationships. Newey is Newey but the team besides him looks absolutely shambolic. They have been outdeveloped by HAAS, Williams and Alpine. Just the whole operation looks directionless and sometimes amateurish.

[diffuser]

They already made a decision last winter. They had the option to change the concept of the car or try to make the AM24 easier to drive as they are confident they can extract performance form it.

The first option is expensive in terms of resources so knowing that it is the last season of this regulation they opted going all in for 26 and chose less expensive solution by pursuing the improving of the AMR24 with a more predictable base and 100% aerodynamic new car (as per Cowell saying).

Last week reports indicated that Mondays with Lawrence at the factory are absolute hell so good luck to everyone in the team tomorrow as the initial plan is not going as they planned in the winter.

Imola looks far for Aston at moment.

It would be 12 weeks from when Newey Started. 4 weeks to design a New floor, 8 weeks to manufacture?

I hope it comes sooner with all the new machinery they have to make things faster

The next race is next weekend, I doudt we'll see anything for that race. That leaves only Miami before Imola.