2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

From the Autosport article:


“[His thoughts] are focused largely on the tools that we're using rather than any direct performance aspects of the 25 car,” he explained.

“But there is value in Adrian understanding the tools that we've got, the fidelity of those tools, and the precision with which they predict what's going to happen on the racetrack.”

It's happening already. The Newey effect.

[-wkst-]

Although it is also clear that the first update package for Imola was mostly (maybe fully) developed in the Mercedes tunnel. Only a second package (maybe around their home GP?) will be fully tested in their own tunnel.

[RedNEO]

From the Autosport article:

When asked whether Newey had provided any insight into possible design flaws on the 2025 car, Cowell said he had only offered broad feedback.

“[His thoughts] are focused largely on the tools that we're using rather than any direct performance aspects of the 25 car,” he explained.

“But there is value in Adrian understanding the tools that we've got, the fidelity of those tools, and the precision with which they predict what's going to happen on the racetrack.”

Once the car starts seeing improvements they will attach his name to those improvements because he is already helping them use the tools better for the upgrades. Just a matter of time

[diffuser]

Alonso says Newey is focusing only in 2026 and he fully agrees with it. I think the discussion can be closed.

Update package is still important though to check correlation and whether new tools are working as Cowell said.

Like he has a choice.

[Xyz22]

From the Autosport article:


“[His thoughts] are focused largely on the tools that we're using rather than any direct performance aspects of the 25 car,” he explained.

“But there is value in Adrian understanding the tools that we've got, the fidelity of those tools, and the precision with which they predict what's going to happen on the racetrack.”

It's happening already. The Newey effect.

I tried to tell people. Newey is not "just" an engineer. He is much more, and he can really change a technical team completely.
This is why he doesn't give a flying --- about the 2025 car. He knows perfectly that is absolutely impossible to make it competitive.

[diffuser]

From the Autosport article:


“[His thoughts] are focused largely on the tools that we're using rather than any direct performance aspects of the 25 car,” he explained.

“But there is value in Adrian understanding the tools that we've got, the fidelity of those tools, and the precision with which they predict what's going to happen on the racetrack.”

It's happening already. The Newey effect.

I tried to tell people. Newey is not "just" an engineer. He is much more, and he can really change a technical team completely.
This is why he doesn't give a flying --- about the 2025 car. He knows perfectly that is absolutely impossible to make it competitive.

It makes sense that if everyone uses the tools that the best way to make the 2025 car better is by making sure the tools are true.

They are, after all, having correlation problems.

[-wkst-]

There are strong rumours in the paddock again that VER could switch to AMR, ALO was even directly asked about VER in the press conference. VER was seen talking to Stroll in the AMR hospitality last weekend.

Hopefully VER stays at RBR for one more year, but in the meantime I really start to doubt. Could also explain that ALO stays under big pressure and makes unusual mistakes (the restart last weekend was another untypical error from him).

[selvam_e2002]

I doubt Max in AM. The current situation of AMR 2025 car is too bad. We never know if they can quickly develop the car for 2026 with Adrain. So Max will better wait for a year and switch to AMR in 2027 if it is a good car to win WDC. He may look for Mclaren instead of AMR.

[Nikosar]

If you already have a driver who, given the right car, can fight for the championship, then why change it? If you're thinking about the long-term future of the team, there’s a wide pool of candidates who could contend for the championship: Piastri, Sainz, Russell, Hadjar... and they’d likely be much less expensive than Verstappen.

Additionally, if Lawrence wants to give his son a car that can compete for the title, why pair him with Verstappen? It would make more sense to look for a strong number 2 driver.

If they do choose Verstappen, it seems more like a move driven by Saudi/Aramco interests and ego rather than a strategic team decision.

[-wkst-]

If RBPT isn’t able to deliver a competitive PU, which is not unlikely, VER will jump ship, even for 2026. Also the chassis side doesn’t look promising anymore, as too many guys left the team. With Honda and Newey reunion AMR doesn’t seem to be a worse option than RBR…

[diffuser]

Can't we give someone else a chance? Does it really have to be Max? Do we really have to become a green red bull? I'd much preffer Sainz or one of the kids.

[peewon]

If RBPT isn’t able to deliver a competitive PU, which is not unlikely, VER will jump ship, even for 2026. Also the chassis side doesn’t look promising anymore, as too many guys left the team. With Honda and Newey reunion AMR doesn’t seem to be a worse option than RBR…

If Im Max I stay at RB for 2026, see where everyone stands in terms of PUs and overall package and then make my choice. Its quite possible the PU advantage gets locked in for a good few years so its too much of a risk to jump to Honda if Mercedes is miles ahead for someone like Max who doesnt want to race forever. 2027 also gives a clean opportunity for the team to move on from Fernando and sign him.

[-wkst-]

VER is also bond to RBR until 2028, but he has exit clauses which makes a switch possible. I don't see a case where VER won't have such clauses at his next team. The best driver can always dictate the terms, unless 1 team is extremely superior (which can't be said for 2026 obviously).

[RedNEO]

VER is also bond to RBR until 2028, but he has exit clauses which makes a switch possible. I don't see a case where VER won't have such clauses at his next team. The best driver can always dictate the terms, unless 1 team is extremely superior (which can't be said for 2026 obviously).

Can you talk about Verstappen in the silly season thread it’s getting old people bringing up the same stuff with nothing new over and over again.

[KimiRai]

Honda reportedly "are also suffering their own particular ordeal when it comes to getting scheduled hybrid engine performance for next year. They are severely constrained when it comes to developing it with just one team."

Also: "Aston Martin is encountering difficulties with its gearbox."

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/muchos-m ... 07764.html