2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[SchuMassa]

That was a very decent session from Fernando. Such a shame the car is useless, with a new set, he would've been close to P10. In fact, he was ~0.02s up on Hamilton even after S2! Terrific effort on scrubbed tyres.

[Nikosar]

Martin Brundle: “I would have brake-tested Alonso if I were Jack Doohan”

Alonso was picking the slipstream f1 behind Doohan

Not sure why he said that about break testing Alonso. Alonso was nowhere near Doohan.

Cause he ended up as commentator...

[-wkst-]

It’s the 2nd time in a row that they wasted a set for ALO. Both times his 2nd run in Q1 was already enough to go through. Just let him drive in the normal rhythm!

They never used that last set of NEW softs @ bahrain, not even during the race. Let's see if they use it here for the 2nd run in Q2.

They couldn’t, like in Bahrain. 1 new set softs is reserved for Q3.

The car has speed in Q, also in Bahrain. But it’s impossible to go through to Q3 with used tyres. 2 tenths - that was possible today with new tyres…

[RedNEO]

Was is stroll in the slipstream? Alonso has a greenish helmet this weekend so a bit confusing. But alonso getting out of q1 in this car is impressive no matter how many sets of soft they used

ALO got a hearlly good slip stream from Ferrari on that last lap...still didn't help.

They're just losing too much time in S3, especially in that turn 25,26,27.

Because the car is crap in slow corners due to making it “more predictable” they completely wiped out the cars only strength. Now it’s using even more wing. Total disaster

[RedNEO]

Martin Brundle: “I would have brake-tested Alonso if I were Jack Doohan”

Alonso was picking the slipstream f1 behind Doohan

Not sure why he said that about break testing Alonso. Alonso was nowhere near Doohan.

Cause he ended up as commentator...

Not wrong

[diffuser]

Not sure why he said that about break testing Alonso. Alonso was nowhere near Doohan.

Cause he ended up as commentator...

https://media.tenor.com/DU60bd8Vzo8AAAA ... -laugh.gif

Not wrong

I wasn't sure if it was an insult or what but on the warm up he was announced as being a LeMans podium contender...... I got a laugh from it.

[RedNEO]

Cause he ended up as commentator...

https://media.tenor.com/DU60bd8Vzo8AAAA ... -laugh.gif

Not wrong

I wasn't sure if it was an insult or what but on the warm up he was announced as being a LeMans podium contender...... I got a laugh from it.

LOL wonder who pissed in their corn flakes to be that petty

[diffuser]

All this stuff about switching to 2026 early.... The 2026 project is like being at the top of a mountain and throwing and snowball down the hill. At the beginning the snow ball is small, not alot of work can be done to it. As the snowball rolls down the hill it gathers snow and gets larger, more choices get made more people can get added to the project. So you just can't take all the people you have and throw them on this small snowball. The number of people working on AMR26 is probably larger than at this point last year working on AMR25, normal cause there are more things to do. Although, it probably isn't huge difference. It might be a huge difference percentage wise, like instead of 20 they have 100(500%) but what is 100 people when you have 1000?

The 900 you have left are still working on the AMR25...

[RedNEO]

Spanish media are saying that they put the 2025 car in the new wind tunnel and they got completely different numbers.

This also makes their next update, developed with the old wind tunnel, already compromised.

I didn’t even consider the next update in this mess. At some point AM has to look at the job some of it’s own people are doing because Williams is doing a much better job despite not having everything AM has.

[RedNEO]

All this stuff about switching to 2026 early.... The 2026 project is like being at the top of a mountain and throwing and snowball down the hill. At the beginning the snow ball is small, not alot of work can be done to it. As the snowball rolls down the hill it gathers snow and gets larger, more choices get made more people can get added to the project. So you just can't take all the people you have and throw them on this small snowball. The number of people working on AMR26 is probably larger than at this point last year working on AMR25, normal cause there are more things to do. Although, it probably isn't huge difference. It might be a huge difference percentage wise, like instead of 20 they have 100(500%) but what is 100 people when you have 1000?

The 900 you have left are still working on the AMR25...

Newey couldn’t have come any later because the staff really need help understanding how to make any car fast and use the tools effectively. He’s like a school teacher at this point judging by what’s happening with the updates. Maybe Mercedes had a hand in misleading them with however they left the WT for them but they need to have people smart enough to notice and use it as effectively as Merc is otherwise it doesn’t really matter what WT it is.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

Spanish media are saying that they put the 2025 car in the new wind tunnel and they got completely different numbers.

This also makes their next update, developed with the old wind tunnel, already compromised.

I didn’t even consider the next update in this mess. At some point AM has to look at the job some of it’s own people are doing because Williams is doing a much better job despite not having everything AM has.

Is doesn't really matter because the Mercedes had the same problems as Aston in the wind tunnel. So yes that wind tunnel always creat surprises. But when they did throw back the opd regulation cars ,then everything was spot on. So I would say ,that windtunnel didn't designed for the new regulation cars. However since end of 23 season, Mercedes do much better job.

[diffuser]

Spanish media are saying that they put the 2025 car in the new wind tunnel and they got completely different numbers.

This also makes their next update, developed with the old wind tunnel, already compromised.

I didn’t even consider the next update in this mess. At some point AM has to look at the job some of it’s own people are doing because Williams is doing a much better job despite not having everything AM has.

Is doesn't really matter because the Mercedes had the same problems as Aston in the wind tunnel. So yes that wind tunnel always creat surprises. But when they did throw back the opd regulation cars ,then everything was spot on. So I would say ,that windtunnel didn't designed for the new regulation cars. However since end of 23 season, Mercedes do much better job.

Can't argue with that.

[RedNEO]

Spanish media are saying that they put the 2025 car in the new wind tunnel and they got completely different numbers.

This also makes their next update, developed with the old wind tunnel, already compromised.

I didn’t even consider the next update in this mess. At some point AM has to look at the job some of it’s own people are doing because Williams is doing a much better job despite not having everything AM has.

Is doesn't really matter because the Mercedes had the same problems as Aston in the wind tunnel. So yes that wind tunnel always creat surprises. But when they did throw back the opd regulation cars ,then everything was spot on. So I would say ,that windtunnel didn't designed for the new regulation cars. However since end of 23 season, Mercedes do much better job.

Remember back in 2015 when McLaren had the attitude of always blaming Honda for their performances. AM I feel haven’t proven they are anywhere near Mercedes level to give them the benefit of the doubt that it was caused by correlation only. Merc just ended qualifying only 1 tenth from pole and both cars in Q3.

I’ll reserve judgement for the update but if it does help them I’ll be more appreciative of Neweys help in them understanding how to get the most out the tools because frankly 2023 feels like a fluke.

[mvfad]

What I find strange is that the car at the beginning of 2023 was very good. What happened to that car? Was the front wing illegal? Okay, but the base of the car was good (unless there were other illegal things that weren't reported in the media).

[Nikosar]

All this stuff about switching to 2026 early.... The 2026 project is like being at the top of a mountain and throwing and snowball down the hill. At the beginning the snow ball is small, not alot of work can be done to it. As the snowball rolls down the hill it gathers snow and gets larger, more choices get made more people can get added to the project. So you just can't take all the people you have and throw them on this small snowball. The number of people working on AMR26 is probably larger than at this point last year working on AMR25, normal cause there are more things to do. Although, it probably isn't huge difference. It might be a huge difference percentage wise, like instead of 20 they have 100(500%) but what is 100 people when you have 1000?

The 900 you have left are still working on the AMR25...

It's likely that around 100 people were already working on the AMR26 last year, and that number has certainly grown.

For example, gearbox testing is already underway in collaboration with Honda and Valvoline, focusing on integration and fluid compatibility. Similar work will need to be done for every component : from aero to chassis to systems, all requiring concept development and dedicated teams. Even if full 2026 parts can’t be built yet due to regulations, that doesn’t mean progress isn’t happening.

As Toto Wolff said:
"Teams are going to choose a pretty early point of transitioning most of the resource into the new 2026 car. I'm not sure we're going to see lots of upgrades after the summer."

That gives a clear signal: teams are already deep into the transition.