2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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By the way who is behind such a slow car?
I cant believe all engineers really that incompetent

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ispano6
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You have two drivers behind the wheel, first of all. They need to articulate to the engineers what they feel behind the wheel. If they can't, it's difficult for engineers to develop the car. Time will tell if the learnings bear fruit with the in season upgrades. Maybe they should do TPC with the car that was getting onto the podium to study it's balance. They had a good car before they were forced to make changes after all. But this team likely is putting most of their eggs in next season's basket and are looking forward to the next Formula which has been said by many. It's been a triple header too so you can't expect much to change during these fly-aways.

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ispano6 wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 17:22
You have two drivers behind the wheel, first of all. They need to articulate to the engineers what they feel behind the wheel. If they can't, it's difficult for engineers to develop the car. Time will tell if the learnings bear fruit with the in season upgrades. Maybe they should do TPC with the car that was getting onto the podium to study it's balance. They had a good car before they were forced to make changes after all. But this team likely is putting most of their eggs in next season's basket and are looking forward to the next Formula which has been said by many. It's been a triple header too so you can't expect much to change during these fly-aways.
They knew how to copy a good car.. once. Not how to build and develop it through a year once they had to understand it themselves. The drivers provide excellent feedback as Cowell has also said but the problem is if you don’t have the people to translate that into lap time it won’t matter. Newey is one person who can do that. But hes going to have teach a lot of these guys who have been totally clueless on how these ground effect cars work.

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RedNEO wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 08:52
As for your other point about the WT it’s been widely reported by various sites that AM put the 2025 car into tunnel because the car had found completely different numbers. Stop with this false narrative that with all this they somehow still have a Q3 car which is absolutely laughable.
Even Aston Martin, which is known to have heavily committed resources to the future rules set, revealed in Saudi Arabia that it was now running its 2025 car in its brand-new windtunnel so it can try to work out what has gone wrong with its design and calibrate its new tools ahead of the rules shift.
The Race^

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/will ... ment-step/
As I said I won’t discuss with you.

But just a tip: reread the WHOLE article of the race (which were at the media round of Cowell) and then you should ask yourself where the race wrote „that the Silverstone tunnel gives them different numbers“. With no word they wrote or meant that.

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I like the he way Fred is channeling his frustration. He's telling it like it is without being a wise guy about it. Hang in there mister, and keep your head down. Better times are coming my man.

https://imgur.com/JiEtt8g

https://racingnews365.com/fernando-alon ... s#comments

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diffuser
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Was gonna say we're gonna need an accident to get in the points.

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diffuser wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 19:07
Was gonna say we're gonna need an accident to get in the points.
We almost had one but luckily we didn’t. Bortoleto almost took Alonso out. Phew we could get lucky later if there’s a big pile up.

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RedNEO wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 19:51
diffuser wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 19:07
Was gonna say we're gonna need an accident to get in the points.
We almost had one but luckily we didn’t. Bortoleto almost took Alonso out. Phew we could get lucky later if there’s a big pile up.
Most drivers would have crashed there, but Alonso's situational awareness is top notch.

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alonso has debris stuck in car or lodged somewhere

Nikosar
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Both Williams and RRB have more pace...

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Yep, Slow as molasses in January but a GREAT drive from Alonso to get to 11th.

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Another great pit stop with 3.9. So an expected performance across the board even though it didn't really matter

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Considering the information we're hearing about AMR25 in the AM F1 WT and the rumors of having an Imola upgrade, that is still 1 month away .....That means the upgrade will be based on the AM F1 WT.

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Getting p11 is unreal.

Saving that situation with Bortoleto is having exceptional reaction capabilities.

Despite of disastrous car and very questionable strategy, Alo's driving allows p11.

Not much to say. Let's hope the team finds out how to make effective improvements.

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Sedaxel wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 20:34
Getting p11 is unreal.

Saving that situation with Bortoleto is having exceptional reaction capabilities.

Despite of disastrous car and very questionable strategy, Alo's driving allows p11.

Not much to say. Let's hope the team finds out how to make effective improvements.
When the race pace simulations give us as 9th team of the grid there is not much strategy that can save the result. Maybe for Stroll they were just hoping for a safety car.

Fair to say that the pit-stops need to improve.