It is now official that Toyota is leaving the Formula One paddock, with the Japanese car giant announcing the sad news this Wednesday morning. The rumour had been going around for some time now, but only until the Japanese press made unofficial declarations did it become realistic. And as expected the faltering economy is to blame for this decision.
CMSMJ1 wrote:Don't know if that is posted at me axle?
My point being that F1 does ont need manufacturers to use it for their ideas and testing.
F1 needs people to make fast chassis and put the fastest engine in them.
That's utopic! (being ironic here)RH1300S wrote: To race????
its not mine I swearCiro Pabón wrote:Who's going to buy Toyota F1?
(that bong marks 1000 millibongs in the Cheech scale, flyn. Caramba!)
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This will encourage manufacturers to join F1 . It will also make life easier for independent teams . Most importantly it will give almost every one the chance to do well .
autogyro wrote:If it is just going to be racing, then does it matter what the drivers race?
Does the technology matter at all?
Good comment but there still seems to be no definition of what F1 is.gcdugas wrote:autogyro wrote:If it is just going to be racing, then does it matter what the drivers race?
Does the technology matter at all?
Nope and that is where Max missed the plot. And to be fair Bernie's and Max's views are somewhat skewed by their involvement in the Cosworth era of the 70's. I don't think either really grasped the significance of the "manufacturers era". But that is my opinion.
This is funny. Those poor sods obviously did not have a fraction of the mental capacity required to work their way across 50 different internet fora daily and post the same pompous opinion everywhere. Instead they had to satisfy their little egos by creating the most successfull racing series on the planet.gcdugas wrote:Nope and that is where Max missed the plot. And to be fair Bernie's and Max's views are somewhat skewed by their involvement in the Cosworth era of the 70's. I don't think either really grasped the significance of the "manufacturers era". But that is my opinion.
Bernie and Max didn't "create" a thing. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time. It would have happened no matter who played their roles. This is just my opinion but all Bernie ever did was supply a bit of contractual stability to a previously disorderly field. Max added necessary barrister clauses to secure monopoly and exclusives which he then sold to Bernie in a shady undervalued deal for 99 yrs at $300M when it was worth way more that that for one year.WhiteBlue wrote:This is funny. Those poor sods obviously did not have a fraction of the mental capacity required to work their way across 50 different internet fora daily and post the same pompous opinion everywhere. Instead they had to satisfy their little egos by creating the most successfull racing series on the planet.
So what is your definition of F1 then?gcdugas wrote:Bernie and Max didn't "create" a thing. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time. It would have happened no matter who played their roles. This is just my opinion but all Bernie ever did was supply a bit of contractual stability to a previously disorderly field. Max added necessary barrister clauses to secure monopoly and exclusives which he then sold to Bernie in a shady undervalued deal for 99 yrs at $300M when it was worth way more that that for one year.WhiteBlue wrote:This is funny. Those poor sods obviously did not have a fraction of the mental capacity required to work their way across 50 different internet fora daily and post the same pompous opinion everywhere. Instead they had to satisfy their little egos by creating the most successfull racing series on the planet.
Well in the context of the last few posts on this thread it is sufficient to say that F1 pre-dated Max and Bernie by decades.autogyro wrote:So what is your definition of F1 then?
Howett is clearly an asshole and hopefully will be out on his ass like the other 500+ toyota F1 employeesEcclestone told the Daily Express: "The problem is that their team manager John Howett fought against drastic cost-cutting all the way and was against new teams coming in."
The FIA is frustrated that the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) members promised to commit to F1 in exchange for the scrapping of proposed radical budget cap rules, only for Toyota to breach that commitment weeks later.
"The FIA accepted the cost-reduction measures put forward by the teams on the basis that they would ensure a long-term commitment to the championship," the sport's governing body indicated.
