oh well, what about all FIA leaks related to the Renault investigation (and many others) that clearly served the FIA and MrM purposed? Now FIA is complaining
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The FIA, Formula One's governing body, has reached an agreement with former leading Renault bosses Flavio Briatore and Pat Symonds. The pair was left with a ban following their involvment with the race fixing scandal at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, which benefited them with Fernando Alonso winning the race. The agreement states that Briatore or Symonds won't be allowed in F1 until 2013.
This adjudication wasnt in a court of law - it was some council deciding that someone had transgressed the 'law' in their own self defined (star chamber) court (give me a break the FIA under Mosely's stewardship was the most corrupt of all) - they adjudged that Briatore had either sanctioned or ordered PK Jr to crash for the benefit of the team - PK admitted he did it but they NEVER proved Briatore either sanctioned or ordered the fix - thats a fact - and to be honest I dont care a whole lot about Briatore but I dont like Kangaroo courts either which is what happened to BriatoreWhiteBlue wrote:In the past Briatore was clever enough to confess and throw himself at the mercy of the WMSC. He did not do it this time. He did not appear at the meeting and challenged the sporting authority of the federation. Ever heard of having some poor sod executioned for the encouragement of the others? It's been happening for centuries and realistically life time in Flavio's case may not be terribly long considering his health and looks lately.
This was never a criminal case of attempted man slaughter but about a breach of the sporting code with some vicious details thrown in. So the rules of criminal trial simply are not applicable. That should nicely do away with most of these bogus claims.mcdenife wrote:And here is a challenge:
Show, with facts and proof from the actual case, which of these claims are bogus. Show also when and what Briatore was charged with. His claims challenge the finding by implication because he cannot directly challenge the findings.
The findings were that he knew about the plan to gain an advantage for driver Alonso by ordering driver Piquet crash. He was responsible for all actions of the team (team principal implies this ancient looking type of personal responsibility). His penalty would have seen mitigating circumstances if he had cooperated truthfully. He did not. Hence the big punishment.mcdenife wrote:Regardless, perhaps you can enlighten or remind us as to what the findings were against Briatore personally, to warrant his punishment.
So in your eyes the guy is guilty as charged your honour by the Star Chamber court - geez Im glad I dont live in your world ace. So what happens should the French courts find he has no charge to answer will you be gracious enough to eat your shorts here - no I didnt think soThe findings were that he knew about the plan to gain an advantage for driver Alonso by ordering driver Piquet crash. He was responsible for all actions of the team (team principal implies this ancient looking type of personal responsibility). His penalty would have seen mitigating circumstances if he had cooperated truthfully. He did not. Hence the big punishment.
The challenge (since this is the basis of finding): - the lack of access provided to prosecution documents and to the key witness;The findings were that he knew about the plan to gain an advantage for driver Alonso by ordering driver Piquet crash.
Fair enough. But this did not even come into any of the deliberations.He was responsible for all actions of the team (team principal implies this ancient looking type of personal responsibility).
Where is your proof (or the FIA's for that matter) that he did not cooperate truthfully? His involvement was never proved. The finding was actually that on balancce of probability, he knew.His penalty would have seen mitigating circumstances if he had cooperated truthfully. He did not. Hence the big punishment.